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Happy Monday! **drive by posting**

Good morning! Did everyone have a good weekend? My BFF is still here, we leave at lunch to go to the airport....

Oh, come on. Half of you are reading this to find out what the hell happened over the weekend. I'm still trying to, as well. I LOVE popping in to my email and finding out that now there are references to my post being Nazi-like?. Or maybe I'm the nazi. Or dovil is the nazi, I'm not sure. (that's the whole thread - three comments down.) Because that is a PERFECTLY REASONABLE STATEMENT when discussing writing as a hobby. On the internet. About fictional characters. REASONABLE. It's also great to find that someone can't have an honest discourse - even if it may be rough - so they get their boyfriend to call me a bitch. And an asshole. And miss the point of the post entirely. And also contradict themselves. (I'll reply to him later - I still have company.)

Look. There were people who disagreed here, sure. But they handled themselves wonderfully. Specifically? Oh, I'll toss out swmbo and sueworld2000. They disagreed, but laughed and threw their hands up in mock surrender. There was no achieving of Godwin's Law in the thread.

Lemme sum up, and if this doesn't float your boat, WHY ARE YOU HERE? Seriously. Click off that check mark on Friends List and walk away. I won't mind. REALLY. Honest and for true. Now, I feel (cough, as do many people) that no matter WHAT you write, you should write your BEST. I don't care if you are writing that Han Solo wears tutus and time-warps to LotRiPS land. HAVE AT IT. You put it out for public consumption? They'll consume. Some may spit it out. Some may lap that up. But. Those that spit it out? They aren't mean. Now, since I've already been called a bitch, I'll just go all the way here. I am the person that may spit it out, then post a notice - "this food stinks. People are spitting up. And check out how they put in licorice in this margarita! The hell?" Clearly I am Hitler. Okay, I'm only Mussolini, but that doesn't pack as much of a punch. WOW. Hitler. Nazis. It only took 376 comments to get there.

If you feel I'm a horrible person, WHY do you insist on coming over here? So, heads up folks. I'm horrible. I kick puppies, shoot old ladies, and make fun of things like "she egressed all over his audience." And "He was traveling to the district of vagina." And I'm not going to stop. I suspect a bunch of you may not, either. In a way... it's a symbiotic relationship. *waits for the leech/parasite insults to be flung at me*

Now gimmie your lunch money.

(For those of you who are being smug about how I'm not responding to "everyone?" I have a life. I was entertaining a human this weekend that wasn't made of Ones and Twos. I'll get to everyone that's posted up to this time stamp. And then y'all have at it. Because I have a LIFE. Aaaaaaaaaand I don't see myself changing my opinon. Need... coffee...)

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tx_cronopio
Jan. 30th, 2006 05:53 am (UTC)
Someone called you a Nazi? Someone called you a bitch? I have to go get dressed for work, no time to follow links, but WTF? WTFuckingF? For you are my beloved Stoneycita. xox
stoney321
Jan. 30th, 2006 05:59 am (UTC)
Oh, my Pat, you are lovely too. But I'm clearly a bitch, come on. I mean... I MOCK!!! I also punched out some autistic kids this morning and laughed at them when they wet their pants.

YES. You should turn away now. (Have a nice day!)
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lostakasha
Jan. 30th, 2006 06:02 am (UTC)
If you're a nazi ... all I have to say is "Heil, baby!"

stoney321
Jan. 30th, 2006 06:45 am (UTC)
Achtung, baby.
amybnnyc
Jan. 30th, 2006 06:12 am (UTC)
OK, what the hell? Seriously, what the HELL? Some people's kids, man...
stoney321
Jan. 30th, 2006 06:45 am (UTC)
Okay... you've been warned. Exposure to me is like... Well, I'm not going to lie to you. You're going to get brain cancer.
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lennongirl
Jan. 30th, 2006 06:20 am (UTC)
Awesome. Second nazi-like-comparison to fandom I've read in what, two weeks? It's getting boring. As is random wanking in random people's LJs. Wanking at home is so much more fun.

Oh wait, that's a bit bitchy, isn't it? And I'm German, OMG... and part of several fandoms. Does that make me a fandom nazi, too?

*blinks*
stoney321
Jan. 30th, 2006 06:47 am (UTC)
JESUS. I thought you'd like that one. Are you friggin' KIDDING ME?!?! Ani, I don't know what's wrong with people.

All of my German friends just LOOOOOOVE the whole "you're a Nazi!" argument popping up arbitrarily. It's such a good, healthy way to move on, you know? [/sarcasm]

"Wanking at home is so much more fun" BWAH!!
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marguerite_26
Jan. 30th, 2006 06:28 am (UTC)
wow... you're post hit the big time if it got the nazi card pulled.

That's totally an 'I have no other arguement so I'll use the one that ALWAYS works no matter how much it HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SUBJECT!!'

Hope you are having a lovely weekend and omg, stay away from lj if it's stressing you at all while your BF for freakin' Ever is there. There's plenty of time to laugh at people when you have free time.
stoney321
Jan. 30th, 2006 06:48 am (UTC)
Ahahahaha!! RIGHT ON. I'm getting ready to go for a run - it's going to be another day up in the 70s, blue sky, good friend...

Life is pretty fine. And plus, we get to laugh at the absurdity of the world one last time before her plane takes off.

*SQUISH*
ruric
Jan. 30th, 2006 06:42 am (UTC)
Am confused *stop*

Last time I visited your LJ a robust discussion was under way *stop*

People were agreeing/disagreeing in a forthright but civil fashion *stop*

Have returned from weekend to realise I have missed something *stop*

Runs back to your LJ to catch up *stop*

Dude - WTF happened? *g*

Personally I liked your 'rant' and I also liked the way the majority of the initial posters (whether agreeing/disagreeing) responded. There was much to chew over and think on.
stoney321
Jan. 30th, 2006 06:49 am (UTC)
I KNOW!! That's what I thought, too. Healthy, robust discussion. Most people seemed to agree with my point, which is: try your best. And claim the crack. Then WHEELS OFF.

*shrugs* But be careful! Prolonged exposure to Stoney may cause blindness. Or excessive enjoyment. BE WARNED!!! And put on some Stoney-block. Spf A Million.
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wickedgrdn
Jan. 30th, 2006 06:47 am (UTC)
Hi! *waves* I thought I'd delurk and put my two cents in (for whatever it's worth, which probably isn't much, lol). I think the fact that you say what's on your mind about a person's work is totally fine. To me, it doesn't sound like a flame, more like concrit. Random observations if you will. It may not be pretty but at least someone had the guts to say something about it. And if the rest of us can learn a thing or two from the mistakes 'so and so' made, than yay for us. It's also a riot! People just seem to take things way too personally, especially if you are begging for reviews...hey beggars can't be choosers, right? So Stoney, I say keep up the good work, keep telling people exactly what you think...in one way or another you are probably doing a lot of us a favor, even if you get a tomato or two tossed at you for your effort. :D

Thanks!
stoney321
Jan. 30th, 2006 06:52 am (UTC)
I will gladly take a tomato for a comment like yours! I'm not going to change (something about old dogs and new tricks and the like) but I'm not personally attacking people.

I'm so glad you popped your head up. I really do welcome de-lurking. It's the nazi-card tossing (although, she was just making a point before the wheels fell off, which was perfectly fine, in my book) and the hidden agendas (or pretending they don't exist) that bug me.

Carry on, my wayward son!
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entrenous88
Jan. 30th, 2006 06:52 am (UTC)
Wow, anyone gets to be a Nazi nowadays. You used to have to, I don't know, participate in the genocide of over 6 million people.
stoney321
Jan. 30th, 2006 06:57 am (UTC)
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

I'm getting out crepe paper, scissors and glue, and I'm making you a badge. Or a homecoming thingy.
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julia_here
Jan. 30th, 2006 06:54 am (UTC)
WTF, I say: What The flying Fuck.

Yes, yes, we're all Hitlerlike Fascists because we think there's a level of competence that should be reached before fics are recommended for reading?

Julia, Monday. Mudslides and avalanches and three inches of rain overnight on top of the foot we've had since New Years Day: yet an interest in construction, plot and characterization is a war crime?
stoney321
Jan. 30th, 2006 07:00 am (UTC)
Oh, CRAP. More rain? JEEEEEZ.

And, I think, I'm not 100% sure, but I THINK the problem is that I mock people. Oh, and I also want nazi-like rules of GRAMMAR. You know - that things are spelled properly and with correct punctuation and that whole recognizable characterization/genocide thing.

Hang on - there's an eldery woman walking by. I need to shove her. Be right back!
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cherusha
Jan. 30th, 2006 07:00 am (UTC)
Whoa, Nelson. I got nothing that hasn't already been said here.

Except: Why oh why can't they be more entertaining when they're wanking? Take a page out of anime fandom. Generously litter their replies with emoticons.

DANCE YOU MONKEYS!
stoney321
Jan. 30th, 2006 07:02 am (UTC)
RU!!

Be careful - being my friend could make you infertile. Or your eyes gloss over with cataracts. Or people will talk about you. It's all the same thing.

Oh, and ;_;;;;;;;;;;; and >_< and P_P and T_T and @_@ and J_U.

I like making things up. And killing people.
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emma_daisy
Jan. 30th, 2006 07:00 am (UTC)
The depth of some peoples dumbassness (is a word) never fails to amuse and amaze me.

Hope you had a fantabulous weekend, dearest. *smooch*
stoney321
Jan. 30th, 2006 07:03 am (UTC)
I did! It's not quite over, but my friend is FAR MORE FIT than me and can run twice the distance I can.

Also: Hello!! *squish* Missed you, cookie!
marlo
Jan. 30th, 2006 07:01 am (UTC)
Meh, fandom is crazy. I wouldn't care what that dumbass thinks.
stoney321
Jan. 30th, 2006 07:05 am (UTC)
HI MARLO!!!

*laughs* It's more mindboggling, you know? And today I go for sushi and a stroll before squishing my friend and sending her home. Faaaaaar more important things in the world.

I was amazed to find that I was supposed to handcuff myself to the computer and reply to over 300 comments this weekend. WOW.
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floweringjudas
Jan. 30th, 2006 07:07 am (UTC)
Just going to throw this out there - those Nazi uniforms? Yeah. Pretty hot.

I mean I'm just sayin'.


Also I'd like to know where the above Highly Intelligent Contributing Members of Society are registered for their upcoming wedding, because I will totally buy them a toaster.

In exchange for their reproductive organs.


...can I write that toaster off on my taxes? I mean, that's a charitable donation, right?
stoney321
Jan. 30th, 2006 07:11 am (UTC)
SO hot. Mmmmmmmm. Way better than sailor suits, IMO. <--zomg, insulting sailors, I am so meeeeeeeeen.

Okay, you give the toasters, I'll get the fondue kit.

(Sorry you are sick! I probably caused it. Um, sorry about that.)
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likeadeuce
Jan. 30th, 2006 07:25 am (UTC)
GODWIN'S LAW!!!!!

YOU WIN AT THE INTERNETS!

*smooches*

Have a ball with the BFF.
stoney321
Jan. 30th, 2006 08:45 am (UTC)
I'm as amazed as you.

(She's taking a nap in the sunshine before she heads back up north.)

Keep churning out the goods, Carrie, to counterbalance the crap.
*muwah*
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stoney321
Jan. 30th, 2006 08:46 am (UTC)
No! I'm not fun! I'm not a laugh riot - and if you enjoy me, you must advocate killing of puppies and love snuff films and horse punching!

Oh, Anne. WHY do you like horse punching? You are as evil as me, apparently.
swmbo
Jan. 30th, 2006 07:40 am (UTC)
omg, I want an mst3k icon that says "mockery, it's like snuff films, in a way" except I thinkt hat's too much text for an icon but STILL, OMG!
swmbo
Jan. 30th, 2006 07:42 am (UTC)
Also, sorry, I HAD to reply to that comment because it PISSES ME OFF when people write crap like that and I am weak.
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wolfling
Jan. 30th, 2006 07:43 am (UTC)
*facepalm*

Yes because bringing Nazis into it (have these people even heard of Godwin's law?) and calling people names is such a productive way of getting your point across. Only not.

The last time I skimmed through the comments on that post, it was still in the fairly civil, productive discussion stage. Now Nazis and name calling.... Geez, did people go crazy over the weekend or something?

I still don't like the term Cult of Nice but I'm beginning to think we need the phrase "Cult of Stupid" as that seems to be gaining members daily.
stoney321
Jan. 30th, 2006 08:04 am (UTC)
Gah - popping in quickly to say that I SO appreciated how you presented yourself. You didn't agree with me on all of my points, and you were able to say your piece civilly, and in a manner that gave me pause. I really appreciated that.

Godwin's Law. Seriously. Hey, really. Thanks again for speaking up.
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stoney321
Jan. 30th, 2006 08:47 am (UTC)
I see your cocked eye emoticon and I raise you a buzuh: O_O.
bitchygrrl
Jan. 30th, 2006 08:02 am (UTC)
You a nazi? That's crazy talk but okay . . .Heil Stoney! *lol*
This is what I don't like about fandom. This idea that you can't criticize. What in the blue hell? I mean if I make a spelling error tell me, so I can fix it. If you think my characterization is off, you can say so. I may not agree, but I'll just go on my merry way. Oh and as to being a bitch well I wear that term like a badge of honor
stoney321
Jan. 30th, 2006 08:47 am (UTC)
MEAN GIRLS UNITE!

We can steamroller more people that way, you see. *taps temple, is smart*
janedavitt
Jan. 30th, 2006 08:27 am (UTC)
Getting so damn sick of the stupid ::gloomy::

::loves you::
stoney321
Jan. 30th, 2006 08:43 am (UTC)
It is pervasive. And multi-fandom, too.

You are so refreshing... I'm glad you'll speak your mind. And the best part? You have the chops to back it up.
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dlgood
Jan. 30th, 2006 08:29 am (UTC)
Last time I checked, you weren't so much "Nazi" as Home Owner's Association board member run amok... People need to refine their namecalling...
stoney321
Jan. 30th, 2006 08:42 am (UTC)
HOA!!!

*fines you for leaving the lids off your trash bins*

Yeah. You need to roll those cans back behind the setback limit of 25 feet, Dave.
lynnenne
Jan. 30th, 2006 08:55 am (UTC)
I believe *I* was the first person to bring up Hitler in that post. Springtime for yooooooouuu!
urbangonzo
Jan. 30th, 2006 09:32 am (UTC)
My, these things get ugly quickly don't they?

Btw- your link takes us into the middle of that convo with the boyfriend, could you give me a general idea where it starts I'd like to read it all.

Um, a modest proposal- Standardized Headers and instead of it saying fb have it say concrit and let the writer tell people whether or not they want concrit. I think this will work for several reasons;

1) We'll all know just who is incapable of respecting other peoples boundries and conversely who is a cry baby.

2) People that just love to give concrit will know for sure exactly where it is wanted, so they don't inadvertently upset someone.

3)The rec lists already say that they will give concrit so if you really don't want it you've automatically disqualified yourself.

I think this would solve several problems at once. Then maybe we can all just focus on getting along and writing.

And wouldn't the 'thought police' be a better description? (just kidding) ;)

'K there's my two cents. (sorry for the long answer I've been thinking about this alot the past couple days)
speakingsilence
Jan. 30th, 2006 06:21 pm (UTC)
bloodclaim has a fabulous standard header they recommend -- one that incorporates both feedback and concrit as separate items. The whole header is wonderfully informative (yep, I'm one of those who likes to have some idea what I'm getting into before clicking to a fic) but here's the fb/concrit part:

Feedback:
Concrit: by email please/in comments/no


Wonder if that simple addition would help folks feel better about getting/leaving the diff types of comments?
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beadbeauty
Jan. 30th, 2006 10:05 am (UTC)
May I make a comment here? My sister is not a nazi- sort of. Wait. No- she's not a nazi. Stickler for perfection? YES. Nazi? No!

However, I will ask this question--- you're telling people to walk from your flist if they don't like what you're saying- meaning the ones that are drastically calling you names because they disagree. And that point I will agree with Ms Stoney. So, here's my question to you: Why are you reading bad fic and commenting on it? If you don't like it, or if you find error in the spelling or the stupid header comments, JUST DON'T READ IT. Take your own advice given the 'nazi sayers' and quit reading bad fic so you can talk about how they are poor writers/spellers. Sounds like you have a nice following of people here that appreciate what you have to say. Can't we all play nice? *Loves her sister but obviously has issues with this topic*

AND- QUIT CALLING MY SISTER NAMES OR I'LL RACK YOU! Just ask her. I swear I will.

*Goes back to writing bad header persuading people to make 15 comments before she writes more.....
beadbeauty
Jan. 30th, 2006 01:02 pm (UTC)
After putting some thought into this, here's where I stand...

If you suck at writing, don't cry about the fact that nobody is recognizing your stuff. If you THINK you're a good writer, live on your ego and be done. Quit picking on my sister because she's actually GOOD at what she does. Bottom line is, if you spent more time writing than calling people nazi's you may learn how to spell T-H-E.


GET A LIFE-
The BIGGER Nazi sister.
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