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Found this today: Alabama'a Birmingham News supressed almost a hundred images of demonstrations, protests, and other images of the civil right's movement from 1956 - 1963, and they've been discovered. The link takes you to the pictures.

Their reasoning was they didn't want to upset their white readers. I know it's "Black History Month" - something I have an issue with, because shouldn't we be integrated enough by now that it's just a part of our history? *sigh* Intellectually I know the history of the Civil Rights Movement. I know the facts, the details, but being confronted with an image of children being sprayed with a fire hose, or a line of National Guardsmen holding Confederate flags... I can't imagine. I just can't imagine.

In other news, I'm horribly stuck with writing, staring at blank pages, huge log-jam in my head. And the longer that writer/concrit meme goes on, the less I give a shit. (SO YOU KNOW! THIS IS SOMEONE I KNOW - BEING SILLY. The other comments are from people I do not know - with the obvious exception of lettered.) Got the person who said I Mary Sue myself into every fic to expound, but honestly - I just don't value their opinion. That may be horrible sounding, but the best thing about free advice? You don't have to take it. There are folks who's opinions carry weight with me, and just hollering out that all of my fics have a sarcastic tone? Sorry. Sounds like a troll to me. Or that every fic sounds like me? Um... I'll just let you guys roll that one around.

If anyone had a lame joke or link, or words of encouragement, or picspam... I'll take any and all today.

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cherusha
Feb. 28th, 2006 10:08 am (UTC)
Sounds like the second commenter reads your journal though? Huh.

The characters don't become real, they sound like stoney telling a joke, or Stoney telling a story. There is not a unique voice for each character, but Stoney doing stand-up on paper, or Stoney telling a story to her friends.

Okay, I've read a lot of your PotC fic chapters. Now let me get this straight. Are you trying to tell me that you - as Stoney - sound exactly like Sparrow and/or Norrington? Because if you do, I will totally fly down there and sex you. Rawr.
stoney321
Feb. 28th, 2006 10:21 am (UTC)
Read a lot? A LOT? You better be reading all of them, beta! :D

And yes. Yes I do sound like BOTH of them. Simultaneously. *freshens breath in anticipation*
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stoney321
Feb. 28th, 2006 10:28 am (UTC)
Re: Supreme Creator of Man-Pants
THE BABIES ARE HILARIOUS! That's one of the best sounds ever - when a wee little schmusen has a belly laugh. I NEED SOMEONE TO HAVE A BABY NOW SO I CAN KISS A FAT BELLY!! Um, a baby belly. :D

Oh, it wasn't 10 Commandments Porn, but that's HILARIOUS. It was a take on Ben Hur: Dun Her. BWAH HA HA!! And the girls had the triple bubble hair-do. (For those not Sue: barrel bangs, puff behind it, scrunchy, puff ball ponytail on top) The guys had on togas and swatch watches. Best part:

A title card with: Rome, 34BC, and it's a picture of Jerusalem. Later, before the orgy with the only hot chick, who has a black bob and quadruple-pierced earrings - they flash a title card: JERUSALEM, 33BC. And it's Rome.

Can't my porn be ACCURATE?? haha.
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elucidate_this
Feb. 28th, 2006 10:27 am (UTC)
i think that the commenter was probably talking about your parodies rather than your actual fics.

because your charecterization tends to be fabulous and true-to-show when you are doing actual fics, but clearly in your parodies it isn't true-to-show. (i haven't read *that* many of your parodies so perhaps you are now doing parodies that are 100% canonical voices in which case disregard this comment)

i wonder if the commenter reads the parody voices as all being 'stoney doing standup' because the parody voices aren't the actual character voices? and a fairly common fannish tendency is to read 'drift from canon' as 'drift towards mary-sue-dom'?

dunno, that's my thought.
stoney321
Feb. 28th, 2006 10:31 am (UTC)
Well, I would definitely NOT count Wee!Spike fics to be anything but me taking the piss at fandom in general. Something like, say: Silence of the Hams is something completely different. *shrugs*

One thing I do try in the bigger parodies, meaning, the multi-chaptered ones based on popular movies like Annie, or Sound of Music, is I try and match the Buffyverse characters TO the characters in the movie. And still maintain the essence of who each person is in canon.

And now I just sound retarded, trying to dissect the funny. Or not, depending on your take. :D

(And when they said ALL of my writing, not just the parodies, well... I think they just have an axe to grind with me, personally.)
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tx_cronopio
Feb. 28th, 2006 10:39 am (UTC)
You know, that's what I hate about Shakespeare. All his plays just sound so damned Shakespearean.

*hugs* and brownies!
stoney321
Feb. 28th, 2006 10:45 am (UTC)
BWAH HA HA HA!!! I was thinking more low brow, like Stephen King, but heh.

BROWNIES. You want 'em with nuts? *sits on top of pan*
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stoney321
Feb. 28th, 2006 10:49 am (UTC)
I WILL TAKE THOSE HUGS!!! *smooooch*
pernickety
Feb. 28th, 2006 10:58 am (UTC)
Lame joke?
What's a hooker called in Alaska?
- A frostitute!
...

You said you wanted lame. :)
stoney321
Feb. 28th, 2006 11:01 am (UTC)
BWAH HA!! Ooh! Let's do some knock knock jokes!!

You start.
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stoney321
Feb. 28th, 2006 11:03 am (UTC)
JUST READ.

Dude, time to ignore and let it go. Serenity now. Ever since you told me that she had been ingratiated herself with me to get to you? Fucking. FREAKED.

Number one, that brought back painful stuff from school where girls would befriend me just to be friends with Tiff. Thanks!

She's wheel's off, man. I think I'm going to go outside and write and sit on the trampoline and BAKE in the sun. And tomorrow's gonna be better!! WHOOT. (Check out the last link in the Crazydiamondsue post. HOLY SHIT.)
demonqueen666
Feb. 28th, 2006 11:25 am (UTC)
Uh, lessee, lame jokes...

There are these two muffins in an oven. And the one muffin's like "Man, it's hot it here."

And the other muffin's like "AHH TALKING MUFFIN!!"


...Or I could just show you this picture:

stoney321
Feb. 28th, 2006 11:27 am (UTC)
GOTH HP!!! My favorite ALL TIME joke:

Two guys walk into a bar... Which is pretty stupid, because you'd think the other guy would have ducked.
themindseye
Feb. 28th, 2006 11:38 am (UTC)
It is always interesting to me to hear from my grandmother and my mother about the civil rights movement in Birmingham since they lived there during that time. I am amazed by the differences in their views on what happened. My grandmother is 81 years old and just recently stopped using the N word after years of us asking her to not say it. At Christmas she tells me, "I stopped using that word. Now I say colored." I had a head desk moment. My mother on the other hand is a lot more liberal than her and is quite embarrassed by her mother when things like this come up.

We visited my relatives outside of Birmingham back in 1998. After growing up in California I can tell you I was in deep shock after hearing the racism that was casually being thrown around by everyone over the age of 60 and a few of the younger ones. If any of them had talked like that back here they would have gotten their asses beat by someone.
stoney321
Feb. 28th, 2006 11:42 am (UTC)
Oh, I'm so glad you commented! My mother is one of those racists that says: "I even have black friends." Well. I'm glad they get to be your token. It's astounding to me to hear such casual comments from people that are so blatantly racist.

I mean really? They REALLY believed school integration would bring about the END OF THE WORLD. I have no concept of comparison in my life for that. It's just... so very strange, you know?

We drive through the Deep South on our way to our vacation place every year, and it's STILL segregated in places in Mobile and such. My buddy SmashSC had some interesting things to tell me about how the city of Durham was set up to CREATE segregation.
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lettered
Feb. 28th, 2006 11:46 am (UTC)
The other comments are from people I do not know.

I don't know you either, Stoney. I really don't know you at all.

*sobs*

In other news, the world is a lovely place.
stoney321
Feb. 28th, 2006 12:51 pm (UTC)
NO NO NO! Not you, ding dong. Bwah!! Ooh! *goes to link*
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crayonbreakygal
Feb. 28th, 2006 12:02 pm (UTC)
You know what's strange. My parents lived in Montgomery, Alabama in 1964. They didn't stay for very long because of the climate there. My father really had a difficult time with the attitudes of some (white) people there. Since I wasn't born until 1966 (Kentucky), I didn't get to see this. We finally settled in Tennessee, then Virginia. I always wondered what the whole story was. Since my dad was adopted, I always wondered if there was some history there. Not sure. Probably will never know. Thanks for the link.
stoney321
Feb. 28th, 2006 12:54 pm (UTC)
I can imagine the climate was uncomfortable! My God, '64 was a firey year down there.

Some of those pics are just stock photos, you know? But some are pretty damned powerful. I wonder if any of those white people protesting the black girl trying to get an education see that picture now and feel shame?
paynbow
Feb. 28th, 2006 12:36 pm (UTC)
Okay, so the voice thing? The fuck. First, I disagree, especially in your more serious fics like Crusilla. Very different voice and tone. As for the parody? Um, part of the funny IS the voice. It's definitely got you in it because YOU WROTE IT. I always believe that an element of the author travells through the page, and it SHOULD. If there was no individual flair then why read anything? There's a difference between JRRT and JKR and a lot of that is PERSONALITY. Their own voice comes through. Now, preaching opinions through writing can get a little old (*ahemHGWellsahem*), but you're not guilty of that. If a person's individuality didn't come through in their writing, then I wouldn't read it. And your individual author voice, btw, is not the same as "stoney does her standup", or whatever that's supposed to mean.

Parody fics are just that. They're not life changing, they make us laugh. They aren't going to make everyone laugh. Personally, other people can go be humourless in the corner, cause I think they're frickin hilarious.

As for Mary Sue-ing. Pfft. You want Mary Sue? spikeNdru and I were part of the BIGGEST Mary Sue story EVER. We inserted ourselves as characters. Purely for comedy, but if you want a Mary Sue story, there you are (it was 50 pages...the sequel is 100). I also wrote a snark!fic where I, the writer, talked to the characters. Finally, I have that one story I removed from public domain because the character was the biggest freakin Mary Sue EVER. And it took me a YEAR to realize. It is my shame...

So, in conclusion, the anon comments were...well, I respectfully disagree. I love your writing. I'm just waiting for you to finish your PotC story so I can read it (It'll be my first PotC story EVER...so excited! *g*)

*smooshes you*
stoney321
Feb. 28th, 2006 12:43 pm (UTC)
Oh, Heather.... *squish* See, the voice thing/Stoney in everything/nothing distinctive is contradictory, first of all. Second of all, you articulated it far better than I've been able to with the whole point about authors sounding unique, otherwise, we're all reading pamphlets from Microsoft.

And really? You're going to read my PotC fic? WHEEEEE! I'm limping to the finish line, but it should all be posted (my hope) this week. And after you read mine, go read the one I recced, but not before, because mine is fun and lighthearted and has the tone of the movie, and the one I recced is all arty and smart and shit. :D
dodyskin
Feb. 28th, 2006 04:26 pm (UTC)
Oh, bugger. OK. Jokes it is then. Ummmmmm.

Two fish in a tank. One says to the other, "I hope you know how to drive this thing."

What's red and not there? No tomatoes.

Two cows in a field. "Moo," says one. "Damn," says the other. "I was gonna say that."

What do you do when you've finished fucking a twelve year old girl? Turn her over and pretend she's a twelve year old boy.

There's a a sausage and an egg in a frying pan. The egg says, "fucking hell, it's hot in here," The sausage jumps and yells, "FUCK ME! A TALKING EGG!"

*encourages you*
stoney321
Feb. 28th, 2006 04:36 pm (UTC)
Ahahahahaha! Excellent jokes, I approve of them all.

Elderly lady goes in for you examination, takes off her bra, has one normal breast, the other flops out, falls to the floor, rolls towards the door.

"Good lord!" the doctor exclaimed.

"Oh, it's just that my husband likes to play with that one while we're in bed."

"But still - that's a bit excessive!"

"Oh, did I forget to mention we have bunk beds?"

Just saw your post over in the other place - ack! That was a weird, crappy PWP I wrote off the cuff and probably shouldn't have posted. HOWEVER. That does not negate the things I'm sure I'll probably find I do, regardless of a toss off or something I work at.

*girds up loins* Off to read all the notes!
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ex_dovil323
Feb. 28th, 2006 10:28 pm (UTC)
You do some of the best character voices out. That's not even under negoitiation here. I think you have a troll who is rubbing her hands together going aha! this will get her, lets see if she likes a taste of her own medicine. Except you give con crit and reasoned discussion and this person is wanking off all over their keyboard.

It's like a battle of wits with a sword fighting a merange.
stoney321
Mar. 1st, 2006 11:53 am (UTC)
you rock. Wanna know how I know? Because you got your house, WOOOOT!

(And I think you're right. DONE with it, thanks.)
beadattitude
Mar. 6th, 2006 03:12 pm (UTC)
I'm scared to look at the Civil Rights stuff. And I grew up in Georgia when Lester Maddox was still alive.

Right withya on the logjam, tho' you seem to have ridden a big one timber down the river with your PotC fic. I'm utterly stuck.

And the write meme? I had one very very nice comment. Very nice comment. But then nothing else. Which, yay, but also...boo? Oh well. And shouldn't things "sound like you?' Um, writer's voice and all that? ::boggles::

And I'd like an explanation of the Mary Suing yourself into every fic. What were you in the the Ewan/Hayden in the Japanese Garden fic? I particularly well-manicured shrub?
stoney321
Mar. 6th, 2006 03:18 pm (UTC)
Well, I picked up a few trolls on that anon meme, and I figured I would, so... meh.

HOWEVER! The two people that did offer concrit gave me stellar info. I even re-wrote an earlier piece based on the concrit from one person, and I like the story so much more, and it was just a PWP!

*cough* am also writing a Buffy/Giles little thingy for you and another girl, based on the other girl's prompt. Ahem. ONLY for you, my Susi.

I was the shrub!! As for your concrit? Honestly, and with all seriousness, I like your dialogue. I'd like to see you tackle something plotty with teeth in it, but that's because I'd like to see what you would do with that. ANything else you want me to tell you?
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