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For the record... (zomg opinionation!)

Swear to god (of your choice), this is not directed at any one person. This has been building for a long time, and I'm putting my opinion out here, since that's what this space is for. If this horribly offends you, do us both a favor and defriend me. Swear to nachos and margaritas I won't mind. (That should tell you how serious I am, for that is the food of my people and my Higher Power.)

  • George Bush is not a Texan. He does not represent my people. He represents the other assholes that moved here because we have inexpensive housing and low taxes, and doeesn't know the first thing about the state I love. Go Kinky.
  • Southern does not equal stupid. Even though we talk slower. (Well, not East Texans. We talk fast.) Even though some of us add extra syllables. It's called local color. Some find it charming.
  • Even though I am not one, Christians aren't all evil. They aren't all assholes. Some are. Some atheists and Jews are assholes. But not Buddhists. They're all divine. Ha ha ha.
  • Some poor people are great. Some are assholes. Same with rich people.
  • People who enjoy the simple things in life aren't "missing out." Some are, but they'll yearn to break free. Some will. Some will not.
  • Just because you say you are open minded doesn't mean you are. If you automatically think something is dumb, or unworthy before you've explored it in some fashion, you have just closed your mind to the possibility that it may not be what you thought. Hence, "close minded."
  • If you think people who don't live/think/believe like you do are less/inferior/missing out, you are not open minded. Sure, you may be right when it comes to things we've all decided on as a society (slavery is wrong. Rape is bad. Etc.) but if they are law abiding citizens, who the hell are you to make judgment calls on their life?
  • I may be guilty of one or all of these things. But I can at least acknowledge that.


Thank you, and enjoy your weekend. I'm off to associate with Republicans, Mormons, and two foul mouthed stand up comics while eating Mexican food and drinking covert margaritas while the Republicans and Mormons aren't looking. I'll hug each of them when I say goodnight, and love them all the same. Well, not the Mormons. They're fucking crazy.

:D

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xochitl42
Oct. 6th, 2006 09:45 pm (UTC)
[ahem]

I realize I have used this word before in response to things you have said, but it is a very effective word, and conveys both support and a sense of understanding of the ideas you communicate.

Testify!

I thank you kindly for your indulgence, and wish you an excellent weekend in turn. Now it's off to Queens on the 7 train for me!
stoney321
Oct. 7th, 2006 02:28 am (UTC)
*preaches on*

I hope that YOU have a lovely weekend, and the 7 train has no unexpected stops. :)
porridgebird
Oct. 6th, 2006 09:45 pm (UTC)
George Bush is not a Texan.
I cannot BELIEVE how many people don't know this!

and Word to the rest of your rant :)
stoney321
Oct. 7th, 2006 02:28 am (UTC)
Well, I try to remind people every chance I get. :D CONNECTICUT? Y'all need to OWN UP.

:D
bitchygrrl
Oct. 6th, 2006 09:45 pm (UTC)
Here, here. This post pretty much guarantees that I will never defriend you, well this and you understand Conner. Have a goodnight. *hugs*
stoney321
Oct. 7th, 2006 02:29 am (UTC)
Heh, WHOOOO! Have a good one, yourself!
brandil
Oct. 6th, 2006 09:49 pm (UTC)
I fucking love you.

I love the food of your people too and wish I had some.

As a Southerner? I don't like it when Texans and Oklahomans call themselves Southern. But that's my issue and not yours.

I call y'all Texans. And the other y'all Oklahomans.

Another of my issues is when people who aren't Southern, Texan, Oklahoman or from some other rural environment say 'holler'

Again my issue and not yours.

Your issue seems to be those crazy Mormons. OMG no caffeine, WTF?
stoney321
Oct. 6th, 2006 10:03 pm (UTC)
Well, granted, I think of myself as a Texan first, and southern second, but that's because my family also hails from Tennessee and Louisiana. So. Cred. (And the west doesn't officially begin until Ft. Worth, but that's arcane Trivial Pursuit knowledge.)

LOVE YOU, heading out, the car's loaded with chillens. ♥
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elcazavampiros
Oct. 6th, 2006 09:49 pm (UTC)
Just because you say you are open minded doesn't mean you are. If you automatically think something is dumb, or unworthy before you've explored it in some fashion, you have just closed your mind to the possibility that it may not be what you thought. Hence, "close minded."

I am totally making a concerted effot to teach this to my classes. I don't care if they agree with me on issues, all I ask is that they make educated decisions on what they believe.
stoney321
Oct. 7th, 2006 02:30 am (UTC)
Um, YEAH. And giving that I know tales of some of your students, it would BEHOOVE them to learn that lesson.
lettered
Oct. 6th, 2006 09:56 pm (UTC)
Word. Word mcwordy Mcwordy word.

Though I still dislike southern accents. Ha.

Just because you say you are open minded doesn't mean you are.

This really is weird. I mean, how many people think because they'd like to be open minded, they actually are. These people, because they don't beat gay people with tire irons, they think they're Buddhist divine, or something, I don't know. They are open within a closed mind, and don't realize there are things outside their minds. You know? I am open to being closed minded--that is, I'm aware that I'm stupid and bigoted about some stuff and I try to admit it when I am and *often*, but not always, try to be more accepting, but I admit that I have blocks.

Ugh. It just pisses me off how people aren't open to that.
stoney321
Oct. 7th, 2006 02:27 am (UTC)
Oooh, I like the "open to being close minded." That's far more honest to put it that way. And sure, I have some prejudices, I think we all do. But then, I'm not Buddhist divine, so...

I'm just trying to make the World of Warcraft a better place, Joy.
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menomegirl
Oct. 6th, 2006 10:02 pm (UTC)
George Bush is not a Texan. He does not represent my people. He represents the other assholes that moved here because we have inexpensive housing and low taxes, and doesn't know the first thing about the state I love. Go Kinky.

Damn skippy.

I don't know what provoked this, but thank you. You have made my afternoon.

stoney321
Oct. 7th, 2006 02:30 am (UTC)
Hahahaha! Well, HOORAY, then! *beams*
domenowtrent
Oct. 6th, 2006 10:06 pm (UTC)
Mormons are fucking crazy. ...That said, someone come rescue me. ;__;
stoney321
Oct. 7th, 2006 02:31 am (UTC)
Heh - they were WONDERFUL tonight, and didn't try and convince me that I can't know true happiness in my current living situation (as in, not sealed in the temple, etc.) so I have NO PROBLEMS with the Mormons. (Hee! I'm referring to my lovely Aunt, who's visiting from SLC.)

*rescues you, omg!*
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barn_swallow
Oct. 6th, 2006 10:08 pm (UTC)
Do people really defriend you over your "rants"? Because they seem pretty common sense to me.

Also, is Maryland the south? I can never get a definitive answer, so I wonder what your opinion would be as a Texan.

And it may be close-minded but I maintain that I am better than Paris Hilton, no matter what =P
brandil
Oct. 6th, 2006 10:19 pm (UTC)
Maryland is officially Southern.

As a North Carolinian, I can tell you we say everything Richmond VA and North is Yankee.

I imagine the people in SC say it's anything North of Charlotte, NC ... and so forth
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psychoadept
Oct. 6th, 2006 10:20 pm (UTC)
*salutes*
stoney321
Oct. 7th, 2006 02:34 am (UTC)
*cracks up at your icon*

:D
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moosesal
Oct. 6th, 2006 10:31 pm (UTC)
Bless you, child. Bless you.

I'm one of those North/South 'tweeners. Spent my first ten years (basically) in southeast Missouri in an area that's very Southern. I've even lived in an all-white town that shared a school with an all-black town 10 miles away. School on neutral ground in between and only because neither town was large enough for their own school (even combined we were only about 700 kids total K-12).

Anyway, after that, lived in Maryland in an area that I would consider pretty Northern really. But still had ties growing up to Missouri (where my father remained and I spent every summer) and I've spent way too much time in West Virginia.

I'm not even going to get started on my 'redneck' experiences, because that's a whole 'nother post on it's own. Anyway... I used to have a really strong accent and when I started school in Maryland (grade 6) the kids made horrible fun of me and assumed that I was an idiot based on my voice. I quickly lost the accent, but it does pop back up now and then. When I got home from Writercon? Chris looked at me like I had lost my mind because there it was. :)

So, without blathering more, I totally get your issues with about Southerners. And I recently argued with someone that Bush is not a Texan and supported your state (where I did live for a year when I was a kid -- San Angelo) as a damn good state. And if I wanted to live somewhere warm, it woudl be on my list. But Colorado is mo' better for my needs and interests. *g*

About the closed/open-minded issue. I think there's just no arguing with some people. Everyone is closed minded about something. They may not realize it until challenged by someone else, but there's always something. I'm closed minded about Mormons. And actually, I used to be that way about Catholics until I became really good friends with a few who I could actually ask questions of. But I think too many people don't WANT to question their beliefs. They're comfortable with what they "know" and don't want to rock the boat.

If you think people who don't live/think/believe like you do are less/inferior/missing out
One could say that these people are closed minded, and I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with that. No one can experience everything and what's good for one person isn't always good for another. I think it's great to open ourselves up to new things, but everyone has their limit.

So in closing, you rock. Great post. Thanks for letting me ramble here.
stoney321
Oct. 7th, 2006 02:37 am (UTC)
Oh, thanks for the Texas support! Oftentimes we feel quite isolated from the rest of the country. Not that we mind, you understand... ;)

And as for the close mindedness, YES. Everyone is closeminded about something, I think that's most likely true. Example, the BFF lives in Ann Arbor, a VERY "liberal" town. See, they're the ones that are the thinkers, that open their minds to alternative thought, etc. Unless it contradicts what they've decided is open minded thought, and then it's just wrong.

Uh... those words. I do not think they mean, what you think they mean. :D Just be up front. I believe in such and such, and that's it. ANd don't be surprised if someone comes along and blows it out of the water.

And you can ramble ANY TIME YOU WANT. *loves the sound of your voice, omg*
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kita0610
Oct. 6th, 2006 11:44 pm (UTC)
"and doeesn't know the fist thing about the state I love."

So, what is the fist thing about your state? Talk about kinky.
a2zmom
Oct. 6th, 2006 11:57 pm (UTC)
It's Texas, so you know it's a damn big fist.
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a2zmom
Oct. 7th, 2006 12:02 am (UTC)
George Bush is from Connecticut. And since I'm not, that's fine.

I am close minded about many things, including, but not limited to celery, Jews for Jesus, trying to get me to do your work for you, general meanspiritedness, Henry James and Ayn Rand. Also Jasper Johns, have never understood why people think he's a good artist.

But I am very open minded in my adoration for you, chica.

stoney321
Oct. 7th, 2006 02:40 am (UTC)
Heeeeeeeeee!!! I support all of the things you are close minded about, with the exception of celery, because that is nature's little broom. Henry James is SO overrated, omg.

eccentricorbit
Oct. 7th, 2006 12:32 am (UTC)
Well rock on. I will have to tell you someday about my dinner with 3 Mormon captains in the US Air Force. I shouldn't have brought up abortion, but I couldn't help myself.
lynnenne
Oct. 7th, 2006 12:52 am (UTC)
Your icon is awesome.
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lynnenne
Oct. 7th, 2006 12:52 am (UTC)
If I were any more open-minded, my brain would fall out!

/Buffy
stoney321
Oct. 7th, 2006 02:40 am (UTC)
AHahaha! IT ALL COMES BACK TO BUFFY. Which is why I love her, you, and the vorld, in that order. Maybe switch one and two out...
julia_here
Oct. 7th, 2006 02:27 am (UTC)
Who was it decided that we've got to agree with people to appreciate them?

My first close online friend was a Republican from Southy, who hated the Kennedies and thought guns were the greatest thing on the planet. We agreed on important things, like the superiority of Jean Luc Picard over James Tiberius Kirk and the right of children to grow up before they had to face adult insanity, and respected each other's rights to like different things.

Life is too short to go looking for perfect matches to be our friends.

Julia, preachifying
stoney321
Oct. 7th, 2006 02:42 am (UTC)
See, this is another reason I like you. You, you have opinions. Some of them may differ from me, and vice versa. Yet you are smart, considerate, unafraid, and intelligent. And since I'm your polar opposite, and opposites attract...

:D
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stoney321
Oct. 7th, 2006 01:19 pm (UTC)
AHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Gosh, you use yore tongue purdier than a twenty dollar whore. And yer cuter'n a speckledy pup.

"I was takin' a stroll down the lane when I saw two strangers talking amongst themselves, when I approached, smiled like my mama taught me, and said, 'Where y'all from?'

"Well, one of them was a Yankee, and she looked down her Yankee nose at me and sniffed, 'Where we're from we don't end a sentence in a preposition.'

"Why, I just smiled bigger and said, 'Oh! Do pardon me. Where y'all from bitch?'"
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ladycat777
Oct. 7th, 2006 04:27 am (UTC)
Well, not the Mormons. They're fucking crazy

\o/

I'm a white, middle-class, jew-girl from the north east (well, mid west if your on the other side of the appalachians). I know shit and all about the south, about small towns, or anything else because I have no frame of reference.

I also know that. I read. I try like hell not to make assumptions and when it happens -- cause it does -- I try like hell to stop, apologize and get it right.

I do not see why that is so fucking hard.

And like the Dixie Chicks, may they finally recover, Bush? A Texan? AHAHAHAHA.
stoney321
Oct. 7th, 2006 01:21 pm (UTC)
OH MY GOD ANDREA I LOVE YOU.

And you know what? It isn't hard. It isn't hard unles you've got your head shoved up your ass, blinders on, and have made decisions about people/things/lifestyles you don't know anything about.

Like how some farmer from Iowa might think hom'seCKshuls train up yer men chiles when they go to the big city for a spelling bee. It's the SAME THING.

Bush is no Texan. But I am. *shoots pistolas in the air, ay yi yi yi!*
floweringjudas
Oct. 7th, 2006 05:47 am (UTC)
MAN YOU WANT TO WATCH OUT FOR THOSE MORMONS MY REV TOLD ME THAT THEY GOT THIS HAT THEY LOOK INTO, TELL YOU WHERE THERE'S METAL IN YOUR YARD.

NOW, IF I GOT GOLD OR IRON OR WHATNOT IN MY YARD, IT'S BECAUSE THE GOOD LORD PUT IT THERE AND HE CAN JUST TAKE IT OUT WHEN HE SEES FIT.

IF THEY HAD A HAT THAT COULD SEE OIL, I MIGHT COULD SEE WHERE THAT'D BE A DIFFERENT STORY.

re: Southern accents: dude, seriously. Though it DOES afford entertainment opportunities, confounding the foreigners by throwing in a couple of ten-dollar words. (Related note: Sophie and I watched some of Blue Collar Comedy Tour and I had to act as translator during Larry the Cable Guy. Good times.)

YAY FOUL MOUTHED COMICS.
slasheuse
Oct. 7th, 2006 10:58 am (UTC)
Was he that horrible man with the shirt with no sleeves who kept saying "titties"?
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chantal87
Oct. 7th, 2006 05:49 am (UTC)
As a southern buddhist,(we are a rare breed)I'm in complete agreement with you.
There is nothing I could add..............'cept..............
You rock like a rockin' thing.

South Georgia represent
stoney321
Oct. 7th, 2006 01:23 pm (UTC)
AHahahahahaha. Hahaha. Ha. YOU ARE THE MOST DIVINE. Southern + Buddhist = SUPREME BEING. :)

(M, are you watching Squidbillies?? Because it's the most perfect satire on North Georgia Mountain folk I've ever encountered. How you like 'at mess? DL it! If you can't, lemme know and I'll hook you up.)
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pernickety
Oct. 8th, 2006 05:51 pm (UTC)
Are you hating on closed minded people? That's so close minded of you!

I have it on pretty good authority that Bush isn't actually from anywhere, but generated spontaneously as a divine punishment that day you forgot to say your prayers. Self-flagellation is in order, young lady.
stoney321
Oct. 8th, 2006 10:33 pm (UTC)
"I have it on pretty good authority that Bush isn't actually from anywhere, but generated spontaneously as a divine punishment that day you forgot to say your prayers"

Okay, that is a PRETTY HEAVY PUNISHMENT for not saying my prayers, oh Higher Power! Talk about Fair and Balanced... Or the lack thereof.

Hahaha. Hee! HELLO!
thepiratequeen
Oct. 9th, 2006 02:10 pm (UTC)
Southern does not equal stupid. Even though we talk slower. (Well, not East Texans. We talk fast.) Even though some of us add extra syllables. It's called local color. Some find it charming.

Did you see SNL on Saturday? Jaime Pressley's opening monologue was all about that. It was pretty funny.

I'd like to state for the record that everyone from NJ is in the Mafia, does buy their clothing, nails and accessories from Tacky Stuff R' Us and lives on or right off of a highway. It's alllllllll true.
stoney321
Oct. 9th, 2006 04:22 pm (UTC)
Oh god, I missed that! She's so freakin' funny.

And I was totally waiting for you to tell me all about the WItness Protection Program when I met you. :D
st_salieri
Oct. 10th, 2006 02:15 am (UTC)
LATE OMG.

How much do I love your rants? THIIIIS MUCH. (Picture pale Euro!Jesus with his arms stretched wide. I'm so going straight to hell.)

Right on about the Just because you say you are open minded doesn't mean you are part. I'm ashamed when I see that kind of behavior, especially in fellow liberals. The far left can be just as close-minded and bigoted and ignorant as the far right, or even the middle. It's not a political thing; it's a smug asshole thing. Unfortunately, there are plenty of those people floating around.

The wisest people are know are the ones who know that they don't know everything.

the other assholes that moved here because we have inexpensive housing and low taxes

HAHAHA. Guilty as charged. Well, kind of. I came for school and stayed for the inexpensive housing. :) I'm going to make a club: Pseudo-Texan Assholes Anonymous. I just need a spiffy acronym. And GWB is preemtively banned.
stoney321
Oct. 10th, 2006 02:38 am (UTC)
Heee - when I got my Master Gardener certification, the director told us that we're now people that can give fully qualified "I don't knows." Heh heh.

As for late-comers to this great state, hell, we'll take you. We just want you to assimilate and admit it's a freaking great place to live. Mosquitoes, heat, humidity and jalapenos. *raises margarita glass*

SMOOOOOCH!
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