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Oops! You're A Racist.

My wonderful, loving, beautiful inside and out aunt is married to the most bigoted, racist jerk on earth.* The real kicker is he grew up a poor Jewish kid in Jersey and became a Mormon as a teen. But is still an active Jew. Uh... Oh, and he's on a mission from god. But without the shades and choreographed dance moves to Motown hits. (Beuller?) He loooooves to send me those right-wing, uber-crazy-Christian slanted emails that result in nothing but a way for these people to sublimate their racism. Trying to prove why all illegal immigrants are sweaty, swarthy potential rapists and gang members (or whores who will pop out kids just for the welfare check) is a way for you to be racist, but not overt in that racism. Kinda.

Here's my beef: I have asked REPEATEDLY for him to stop sending me this garbage. (Yes, I can block the email account, that's not feasible, since again, he and she are on a mission from god and this is the only way to communicate with my awesome aunt.) I could just delete this crap. But my conscience won't let me have this kind of thing floating around unchallenged, if that makes sense. (Which, I need to get over that.) So. I replied. To ALL. Because the people he sent it to were all their old church buddies from Utah. Oh, yes. Please, whitest state in the union, please tell me, a Texan, all about the dangers of illegal immigrants!



Here's the original, with fw:fw:fw:fw and the text all wonky and off-kilter from many AOL transfers. (Which, of course they're on AOL.) My MST comments in red.

Cheap Tomatoes THIS HAS GOT TO BE PASSED ALONG TO AS MANY AS POSSIBLE OR WE WILL ALL GO DOWN THE DRAIN BECAUSE A FEW DON'T CARE. This English teacher has phrased it the best I've seen yet. [really? can you even parse that sentence *you* wrote?]

Tomatoes and Cheap Labor

CHEAP TOMATOES? This should make everyone think, be you Democrat, Republican or Independent. From a California school teacher - - - 'As you listen to the news about the student protests over illegal immigration, there are some things that you should be aware of: I am in charge of the English-as-a-second-language department at a large southern California high school which is designated a Title 1 school, meaning that its students average lower socioeconomic and income levels. Most of the schools you are hearing about, South Gate High, Bell Gardens , Huntington Park , etc., where these students are protesting, are also Title 1 schools. Title 1 schools are on the free breakfast and free lunch program. When I say free breakfast, I'm not talking a glass of milk and roll, but a full breakfast and cereal bar with fruits and juices [THEY GIVE POOR KIDS JUICE? They're supposed to drink dirty ditch water, the HORROR.] that would make a Marriott proud [side note: this is a MORMON hotel chain. Um, and they're not that great. The food is quite crappy, actually.] The waste of this food is monumental, with trays and trays of it being dumped in the trash uneaten. [probably shouldn't have bought the cheapest meat, the meat that was later on a recall list.]

(OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK) I estimate [oh, you *estimate*. There's some hard evidence] that well over 50% of these students are obese or at least moderately overweight [if this is even true, it's probably because CRAPPY FOOD is cheaper than HEALTHY food]. About 75% or more DO have cell phones [they shouldn't be allowed ANYTHING, because they are POOR. I hope I don't find out they have clothes and beds or... play SPORTS!] The school also provides day care centers for the unwed teenage pregnant girls (some as young as 13) so they can attend class without the inconvenience of having to arrange for babysitters or having family watch their kids. [Thank GOD that no white girl ever got pregnant out of wedlock. How lucky to have that be an innate trait among Caucasians. I mean, Americans. Also, so these people want them to drop out? Won't that put them further on the dole? Heaven forfend we get these people some education so they can do for themselves. What's that Jesus thing... something about getting a fish or fishing and teaching... I guess the letter writer can't remember either. Hem hem.]

(OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK) I was ordered to spend $700,000 on my department or risk losing funding for the upcoming year even though there was little need for anything [OH REALLY. You're in the poorest school in California, and you can't think of anything to spend your money on? Riiiiiiiiight. Bitch.]; my budget was already substantial. I ended up buying new computers for the computer learning center, half of which, one month later, have been carved with graffiti by the appreciative students who obviously feel humbled and grateful to have a free education in America . [Again, what a blessing that no American-born white child ever defaced school property. Ever. In American history. note: I do not approve of defacing school property, I just don't isolate my dislike to one group of people.]

(OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK) [Really? They're working? I thought they were languishing in Iraq... And not buying armored vehicles for our soldiers.] I have had to intervene several times for young and substitute teachers whose classes consist of many illegal immigrant students here in the country less then 3 months who raised so much hell with the female teachers, calling them 'Putas' (whores) and throwing things, [thank god we Americans - read: whites - have never had children that would say ugly words to a teacher. Because we are born with respect in our hearts, apple pie in our hand, and a bible on our knee. And you know, maybe that kid was that teacher's pimp. I'm just saying....] that the teachers were in tears. Free medical, free education, free food, day care etc., etc., etc. Is it any wonder they feel entitled to not only be in this country but to demand rights, privileges and entitlements? To those who want to point out how much these illegal immigrants contribute to our society because they LIKE their gardener [OH NO SHE DI'INT. Also, why the hell isn't her son our there trimming and mowing and working in 100+ temps? Hmm] and housekeeper and they like to pay less for tomatoes: spend some time in the real world of illegal immigration and see the TRUE costs. Higher insurance, medical facilities closing, higher medical costs, more crime, lower standards of education in our schools, over crowding, new diseases [NEW DISEASES?!?!?!?! Mexicans: Bringing New Diseases Since 1847! WTF?] etc, etc., etc. For me, I'LL PAY MORE FOR TOMATOES. [Knock your socks off. Unfortunately, you live in a CAPITALIST COUNTRY. And yet, you people who always bitch about supply and demand FUNCTIONING as it was set up will never let us move to a more SOCIALIST society. Shit or get off the pot, lady.]

We need to wake up. [Yes. you do.] A guest worker program will be a disaster because [more dark-skinned people will be here and my daughter might marry one] we (won't/don't) have the guts to enforce it. Does anyone in their right mind really think they will leave voluntarily and return? [Wait, will they leave, or come back? Also, they can LIVE BETTER HERE. Why the hell *wouldn't* they come back? See, if you let our country go completely to the dogs, then they won't come back. I've just solved this whole problem. Hahaha.] It does, however, have everything to do with culture [they paint their houses bright colors and listen to music that I only like to hear in Taco Bell]: A third-world culture that does not value education [oh really? Or maybe it's that they can't AFFORD our level of education, you horrible woman], that accepts [??? Quit making abortions so hard and PUT SEX ED BACK INTO SCHOOLS.] children getting pregnant and dropping out of school by 15 and that refuses to assimilate, and an American culture that has become so weak and worried about 'political correctness' [ah, your Democrat hate is showing, ma'am.] that we don't have the will to do anything about it. If this makes your blood boil, as it did mine, forward this to everyone you know. [Oh, my blood is boiling, but it's because people like you are so filled with bile and ugliness and hate your fellow man unless they look and sound just like you.]

CHEAP LABOR? Isn't that what the whole immigration issue is about? [Nope, that's what AMERICA is about. Surprise!] Business doesn't want to pay a decent wage. [No, it's that they want to find the best person for the least amount of money. Like how you go to McDonald's and order off the dollar menu or shop at Wal-Mart. Idiot.] Consumers don't want expensive produce. Government will tell you Americans don't want the jobs. [And they're right. Where's the American offering to pour tar on a roof in July in Arizona?] But the bottom line is cheap labor. The phrase 'cheap labor' is a myth, a farce, and a lie. There is no such thing as 'cheap labor.' [Actually, there is. Do you know how to make words work?] Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five children. [Nice and subtle. 5 kids. Those Mexicans with their disregard for the rest of us, popping out kids like the filthy people they are. What a blight on humanity!!! Oh, wait. Every Mormon I know has at least five, some eight, nine, and ten kids. And shop at Costco and Wal-mart to save a buck to support their over-populated families.] He takes a job for $5.00 or 6.00 hour. [Which is under the federally regulated minimum wage, mind. Oh, did you not mention that, Ms. Letter Writer?] At that wage, with six dependents, he pays no income tax, yet at the end of the year, if he files an Income Tax Return, he gets an 'earned income credit' of up to $3,200 free. [Who are these magical illegal immigrants, these mythical migrant workers that FILE TAXES??? Oh, you mean the Mexican that owns the house down the street from you and has lived there for ten, fifteen years. Um, probably he's legal at this point. And welfare is legal, moron.] He qualifies for a Section 8 house and rent subsidy. [They should live on the street and panhandle! how dare they aspire to a roof over their heads!] He qualifies for food stamps. [We're letting them EAT now?? But he's poor! And Mexican!] He qualifies for free (no deductible, no co-pay) health care [at a health clinic where he will wait for hours to get a flu shot or his thumb sewn back on because he was cutting your trees t. The trees your husband or your teen-aged son couldn't be arsed to do.] His children get free breakfasts and lunches at school. [Those sons of bitches. Eating! Like they're entitled to have FOOD!] He requires bilingual teachers and books. He qualifies for relief from high energy bills [Because the white "Smartest Guys In The Room" screwed up the energy market so bad that even *gasp!* white GRANDMAS needed gov't assistance. But they're white. And grandmas. So they can have relief.] If they are or become, aged [let's hope they don't live long? What??], blind or disabled [because they fell off your roof because you hired him on the side of the road to do cheap work on your house and didn't have proper OSHA equipment and regulations...], they qualify for SSI. Once qualified for SSI they can qualify for Medicare. All of this is at (our) taxpayer's expense. He doesn't worry about car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners insurance. Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins and printed material. He and his family receive the equivalent of $20.00 to $30.00/hour in benefits. [AHAHAHAHAHA. NO. Wrong. Try again, dumb ass.]

Working Americans are lucky to have $5.00 or $6.00/hour left after paying their bills and his [Maybe you should have gotten a better paying job. Maybe you shouldn't put yourself into crippling debt, buying things in bulk and getting new cars and things all the damn time.] The American taxpayers also pay for increased crime, graffiti and trash clean-up [because only Mexicans participate in this. No good, honest, red-blooded Christian American child ever committed a crime. Or stole food to make sure their family didn't go hungry because they were denied those free breakfasts and lunches for their kids.] Cheap labor? YEAH RIGHT! Wake up people! THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING TO THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES FOR EITHER PARTY. 'AND WHEN THEY LIE TO US AND DON'T DO AS THEY SAY! WE SHOULD REPLACE THEM AT ONCE!' THIS HAS GOT TO BE PASSED ALONG TO AS MANY AS POSSIBLE OR WE WILL ALL GO DOWN THE DRAIN BECAUSE A FEW DON'T CARE.

AMEN!!! [Jesus Wept.]


So, here's a little tidbit for the people that love this sort of email and nod their heads and yell "They took er jerbs!" JESUS WAS AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT.

I am going to not read any of the emailed replies that come back on this stupid thing. I made the mistake of reading one woman's reply to mine and she told me I owed my uncle an apology. No, white woman from the Salt Lake City suburbs. I don't. My kids went to a Title 1 school, with 80% Hispanic kids. And you know what? Those were the kids whose families showed up to take them home and showed them loads of love. I'm talking tias y abuelas y papi y mami there every afternoon. The white kids got picked up by their nannies, or their moms on their way to Pilates and the babysitter. <-- no exaggeration. There was a distinct line between the have's and the have nots in that neighborhood.

Also, the school taught the kids both Spanish and English, so that when they eventually went back home to Mexico, they wouldn't be illiterate in two languages. And I bet (I don't have the stats right here) but I bet that doing all of this costs a hell of a lot less than buying artillery for this stupid war in Iraq. And hey: teaching and helping and feeding the poor was what Jesus taught. Blowing up brown people for believing differently wasn't on Christ's agenda. Surprise!

I HATE IT WHEN I'M MORE CHRISTIAN THAN CHRISTIANS. But no, atheists have no morals. BTW: if you agree with the original email, I have nothing further to say to you. Don't bother commenting with the hope of getting into a discussion with me. I'll just send you here, and then laugh a bit, because he's funny. Caustic, but funny. If you want to stop this, then don't go after the poor people, who are just trying to freaking survive and do a bit better than they were in their former country. Go after the COMPANIES THAT HIRE THEM ILLEGALLY in order to float the costs under the table. Hey, what's that? Reason?

Maybe this will convince these people to stop emailing me. Or I can keep shoving their noses in their own filth. Either way. (viciouswishes. I took a page out of your book on this one. *beams*) And now I'm off to get my blood pressure checked at the dr's. Hahaha. Wheeee!

*not scientifically proven

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slasheuse
Feb. 26th, 2008 02:48 pm (UTC)
Hogod. First off, YAY FOR YOUR RESPONSE, it made me smile and countered the fury. I mean, just. Aside from the email expressing CRAPPY CRAPPY VIEWS, the idea of citing Christian precedent is just insane, considering that one of the VERY FEW THINGS Jesus was CLEAR AND REPETITIVE ABOUT was be nice to the poor/stranger/alien, share your stuff, don't be materialistic, show humility etc etc etc.

I recognise that sort of thought (email's thought) in my hometown a bit, with the huge influx of Eastern Europeans. It's just crap.

You have huge self-control not reading the responses - though I bet some of them will be hilarious.
stoney321
Feb. 26th, 2008 03:52 pm (UTC)
UGH. The ugliness! (Well, after that one response where this woman said that she types up Social Security checks, so she KNOWS that every single one of these immigrants is a lying liar, or whatever, and that I owed my uncle an apology... NO I DO NOT.

The Mister actually replied to her. Um, it was a thing of beauty, actually. Sarcastic and full of "boo-yah."

Why don't these people understand their own religion? *smacks them on the back of the head*
entrenous88
Feb. 26th, 2008 02:53 pm (UTC)
*wince*

Yeah, I wouldn't want to hear from that guy ever again.

I think if you do it on gmail, you can create a filter that should get rid of his emails while keeping your aunt's. Probably set it up so that anything coming from that addy with particular keywords would go straight to the trash. It seems worth a try to avoid all that craptacular self-righteous oppressive bigotry!
entrenous88
Feb. 26th, 2008 02:55 pm (UTC)
Aaaaaand I missed the part where you sent the MST to them - ignore me!
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jennem
Feb. 26th, 2008 02:53 pm (UTC)
You win.

Hopefully he'll take you off of his distribution list.
stoney321
Feb. 26th, 2008 03:44 pm (UTC)
Man, I HOPE SO. I hate this kind of crap with a passion. Especially when it's shrouded in this "I'm a *real* Patriot" mentality. Bah, I say!
wolfshark
Feb. 26th, 2008 02:59 pm (UTC)
My hat's off to you, lady, because I would have been too fuming mad to reply in any sort of logical manner.
stoney321
Feb. 26th, 2008 03:45 pm (UTC)
I should be upfront with it taking me an HOUR before I allowed myself to type a response so it wsn't just: I HATE YOU ALL, GAHHHHH!
mpoetess
Feb. 26th, 2008 03:10 pm (UTC)
That there that you done did is a thing of beauty.
stoney321
Feb. 26th, 2008 03:46 pm (UTC)
Let's see if the 112 people on the "reply to" list feel the same. *beams*
kiji_kat
Feb. 26th, 2008 03:14 pm (UTC)
I was going to recommend sending them an e-mail saying, "You know, I think there's someone who would really agree with what you have to say about this issue. Check him out here," and linking to some YouTube video of Hitler giving a speech, but that probably wouldn't go over well, given that the uncle was/is Jewish. Then again, maybe it would get him thinking.

You have a distinct advantage in being able to control your rage so you don't do something you'll very quickly come to regret.
stoney321
Feb. 26th, 2008 03:46 pm (UTC)
You know, it would be a good reminder for him. I mean, that original email smacks so much of "round em up and stick them somewhere we don't have to see/hear/interact with them." Just... UGH.

*high fives you*
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drusplace
Feb. 26th, 2008 03:15 pm (UTC)
Oh my. How could anyone think of ever giving poor kids juice??? Doesn't anyone know that there are VITAMINS in juice! And pregnant teenage girls still get to go to class??? Are people crazy? These girls CANNOT be allowed in class!!! They might actually *gasp, splutter, gasp* get an education that way!!!! *snort*

I hate those kinds of people. HATE! And I try to make an effort to not to hate anyone/anything.

*sends good thoughts to the house of Stoney* Hopefully you'll get off the list and not have to deal with this crap anymore!
slasheuse
Feb. 26th, 2008 03:21 pm (UTC)
Re: girls in class, why can't these people see that if a girl is underage and pregnant, probably creating family problems, preventing her from saving and planning for her future, and incurring huge financial, logistic and emotional responsibilities that will impact on her for the NEXT EIGHTEEN YEARS or so, the BEST THING TO DO is obviously to DEPRIVE THEM OF EDUCATION AS WELL AS EVERYTHING ELSE THEY'RE GOING THROUGH. *snorts too*
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a2zmom
Feb. 26th, 2008 03:23 pm (UTC)
Loved your responses.

Was it a year or so again, there was a protest in which all those dirty illegal immagrants refused to work and California shot down? I do think there needs to be some sort of well thought out plan to deal with immigration, but to say send those disgusting Mexicans home because Americans are just dying to do those jobs - no, they aren't and they won't.

And to say, let those those kids starve and fend for themselves is "Christian" charity that pulls the Christ right out of it.
a2zmom
Feb. 26th, 2008 03:24 pm (UTC)
Which reminds me - tzadekah is the most important mitzvot a Jew can preform. Please tell your b-i-l, he might be a Mormon, but he certainly isn't a Jew.
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redbrickrose
Feb. 26th, 2008 03:43 pm (UTC)
This is awesome. You are awesome.

teaching and helping and feeding the poor was what Jesus taught. Blowing up brown people for believing differently wasn't on Christ's agenda. Surprise!

I'm always bewildered by the number of people who just don't seem to get that. IT ISN'T HARD.
stoney321
Feb. 26th, 2008 03:50 pm (UTC)
I know!!! But honestly, these type of "Christians" need to call themselves "Paulists," because that's who they're following. Jesus was the one standing up for the meek, the outsider, the sinner. Why don't they remember that?
ljgould
Feb. 26th, 2008 04:02 pm (UTC)
I always enjoy your responses to things like this. Such righteous indignation needs to be shared.

I get similar emails from a r-b-m (relative by marriage) who is not only female but also Native American. It really boggles my mind that she, having grown up in poverty and discrimination, is suggesting that we continue that behavior with another group(s). I think her support of these racist ideas may be a way to deflect the treatment she remembers experiencing to another group, but that doesn't make it right.

Unlike you, I just delete this type of racist crap. I'm too old to deal with the idiocy.

You go, girlfriend!
stoney321
Feb. 26th, 2008 04:09 pm (UTC)
I... WHAT? Wow. That is a real head scratcher. I guess there's just so much anger built up that she's deflecting it onto someone else? (the pecking order?) Yeesh.

Well, I *need* to delete this crap. I mean, my blood pressure is normally pretty damned good, and I want to keep it that way! :D
gillo
Feb. 26th, 2008 04:07 pm (UTC)
Fine, fine rant. And no, if I found myself agreeing with even a little bit of that letter I think I'd need to shoot myself. Pronto.

You know the hugest of huge ironies here? A century ago almost identical crap was being written and circulated in my country and yours about the filthy immigrants, bringing their nasty habits, dirt and diseases and refusal to join the society that (hah!) welcomed them. These people, apparently, were semi-morons, with no respect for education, here to take jobs from decent working people and almost certainly setting out to destroy society from within as well as draining all the tax money paid by decent, hard-working people.

I bet you can guess what group of immigrants this was, and why it's so frikkin' relevant to your uncle.
stoney321
Feb. 26th, 2008 04:12 pm (UTC)
Oh, you betcha! It's frustrating how cyclical this is. And whenever a country goes to war with someone, jokes change to racially charged humor about the people you're going to bomb. Lovely!

I don't understand how my uncle - who lost family in Dachau, mind - can be so intolerant of other peoples. And I want to say, must be nice. Must be nice to have a gov't job's retirement plan. Must be nice to have always been allowed to work. Enter buildings. (In the front door, no less!) Ick.

I only have to see him/hear from him on occasion. I feel badly for my aunt - she believes they'll be together for eternity. *shudders*
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xochitl42
Feb. 26th, 2008 04:25 pm (UTC)
I'm just enjoying the mental images of blustery faces with jaws wobbling making gaspy-fish noises in self-righteous indignation.

It truly is an endless cycle; in NYC I watch little old Russian ladies--with little old Russian accents--leering angrily at the young Dominican women on the subway.

Awareness. Spread it; it's the only thing we've got. I personally quite enjoy your approach. ;)
stoney321
Feb. 26th, 2008 06:10 pm (UTC)
I can just picture what you said, too. It's weird how one people feels the need to hate another people. Not too far removed from the cavemen tribes, are we?

*squish*
copykween
Feb. 26th, 2008 04:30 pm (UTC)
Eeee, there is just NO WAY to reason with that level of crazy.
stoney321
Feb. 26th, 2008 06:10 pm (UTC)
You're right. Crazy stupid = unreasonable by definition, yeah?
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stoney321
Feb. 26th, 2008 06:11 pm (UTC)
Oh, honestly? I really think it's just some propagandist bullshit started by someone with an ax to grind, and then it morphs into this. I mean... you'd have to be the worst, angriest teacher ever. And I'm thinking you wouldn't be teaching ESL for long, you know? *hugs*
kita0610
Feb. 26th, 2008 04:40 pm (UTC)
Well. I'd apologize on behalf of whatever Jewish blood is in this moron, but I'm pretty sure my G-d doesn't want him either.
stoney321
Feb. 26th, 2008 06:12 pm (UTC)
Yeah, God (if there is one) is probably stomping around in heaven: "Why do they keep getting the message wrong??"
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marenfic
Feb. 26th, 2008 04:49 pm (UTC)
ILU <3<3<3

I was laughing and laughing and laughing and the sociology professor came in to find out why I was braying like a donkey so I had to share. She loves you too.
stoney321
Feb. 26th, 2008 06:14 pm (UTC)
ILUMAREN!!!

Hee, awesome! Oh, and it's official: I'll see you on the 21rst with the whole fam damnily, then I'll come out the next week (Wednesday? Thursday? and we'll go play. I'm thinking massages and BSG. And cards!! And bad for us food! Mmmmmmmmm.) CANNOT WAIT, ZOMG.
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stoney321
Feb. 26th, 2008 06:15 pm (UTC)
(Shh, don't tell, but I've been reading the first line of the ones coming in for that very reason. And... nope. :(( Most of the people on the mailing list were members of their church, neighbors, that sort of thing. Honestly? I didn't encounter such blatant racism until I moved to Utah. Remember, they believe God will make black people white in the next life so they can be "perfect.")

O_O
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lumenara
Feb. 26th, 2008 04:58 pm (UTC)
Ney took er nerbs!

Sometimes South Park just happens to have the best summation of an issue available.

I'm not sure if you already did this, but it might help to include a repeat "I've repeatedly asked you not to send me this kind of mail, so..." message at the top.
stoney321
Feb. 26th, 2008 06:17 pm (UTC)
Hahaha, the Mister and I have been saying that with increasing incoherency all morning. EHOOK ER ERRRRRRBS!

I actually started and> ended the email with that very thing. I'm holding out a fleeting hope that it'll stick this time...
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thebratqueen
Feb. 26th, 2008 05:27 pm (UTC)
We can shoot them, right? By which I mean people who forward those emails?
stoney321
Feb. 26th, 2008 06:17 pm (UTC)
Well, I don't see why not. These are the folks that fight for all the gun freedoms and ability to have AK-47s for home protection... :D
setauuta
Feb. 26th, 2008 05:52 pm (UTC)
I'm at work, so I'm trying very hard to keep from letting loose the stream of obscenities (in both English and Spanish, thank you) that are straining to break free.

Suffice to say, my mother's parents are Mexican immigrants (no clue as to the legality of their immigration - it never really came up), and I worked for a year at a Title 1 school. This "teacher" has no clue what she's talking about. Good for you for responding, and hopefully your uncle will take the hint.
stoney321
Feb. 26th, 2008 06:20 pm (UTC)
Yeah, it was clear to me that this person didn't know what's the real deal in a Title 1 school. It's just racism, disguised as patriotism, which is sickening.

And as a person with a long line of natives here in Tejas (going back to Spanish immigrants before this was US territory and Native Indian) I'd like to say that WE WERE HERE FIRST. :D

And give me a break. All of the guys I've worked with from Mexico (sending their money back home to help the rest of their family get here, talk about selfless...) have been the hardest working people I have *ever* known. Show me a group of white teenagers with that same work ethic, you know?
essene
Feb. 26th, 2008 05:59 pm (UTC)
*sigh* That woman shouldn't be a teacher--IF indeed she is one. Not only is she a bigot and a racist, she's painfully ignorant of proper grammar. eesh.

You done good sweetie. Although you've definitely got more balls than I.
stoney321
Feb. 26th, 2008 06:22 pm (UTC)
I have a special chair to help me sit with balls this big. :D

I really REALLY doubt this is a teacher that wrote this. Sounds like something created to inflame people into voting a certain way, you know? Pure propagandist BS. (Which, considering how "true blue Amerkin" the people who buy into this think they are... How very Tokyo Rose of them. Hem hem.)
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demonqueen666
Feb. 26th, 2008 06:13 pm (UTC)
Re: my icon- It is. It really, really is.

See, at least when my asshat uncle spams us with forwards, they're just the typical chain mail/bad joke crap. I offer you the tea of righteous indignation and sympathies for having to put up with the Daily Bigotry newsletter.
stoney321
Feb. 26th, 2008 06:23 pm (UTC)
I'd LOVE to get that crap vs. this crap ANY DAY. Gah.

Hahaha, "Daily Bigotry Newsletter." That's how I need to reply to him. Awesome!
fiveandfour
Feb. 26th, 2008 06:41 pm (UTC)
Those kinds of specious arguments are always so completely random - I marvel at the number of people who never question them but instead gobble them up whole then ask for more. I say this all the time, but a long time ago the host of that game show Street Smarts signed off one time by saying, "And remember, half of all people are below average" and it's been like a mantra to me ever since. It was like a huge lightbulb went off over my head because, truly, half of all people are fucking idiots; they'll follow any Pied Piper directly off a cliff if the tune is right.

So "the point" of that hate-rant was supposed to be what, exactly? If we pay more for tomatoes that means the workers will be paid more (yeah, right!) and thus all of the sudden white people will be jumping at the chance to work in the fields for minimum wage (farms being exempt from minimum wage rules under current law). Yes, please. I'm sooooo ready to give up my white collar job, take a huge paycut, and get right back out there doing the kind of thing I did before I had the knowledge or skill to do anything else.

Somehow the facts that jobs like that are a) damned hard and no one really *wants* to do them and b) the lowest rung on the success ladder and thus the one everyone starts on, not ends up at, has completely passed these people by.

I shouldn't be, but I'm always stunned at how selfish and greedy people can be. Instead of thinking, "Hey, a teen-ager is suddenly yanked from a place where everything is familiar into a situation where not only do they not know the language or have any close friends, plus all the people seem to hate them on site - that's got to be tough" and show a little compassion, they instead begrudge them some food and an education because, why?, they didn't immediately fall to their knees and kiss the feet of every (white) American they ever saw? They begrudge other people food and the most basic kind of shelter, medicine and education EVEN WHEN THEY'RE WORKING FOR THEM. Amazing!

You're right, this kind of thing IS all about hate and racism. It's just wrapped up in a lot of bullshit to make it more palatable. I doubt any truthful and balanced argument would get through to the kind of person who would swallow this kind of thing in the first place, but it must be darned satisfying to try - so rock on lml^--^lml.
stoney321
Feb. 26th, 2008 08:09 pm (UTC)
What's terrific is how obviously this person (and the people who fall for it) don't understand that THIS DOES NOT AFFECT YOUR PERSONAL TAX PAYMENT. If we don't pay for these services, you will not get a check back for the amount. Your tax dollars will go into building more prisons and welfare outfits, which means you'll actually start paying MORE taxes. Or, we could save a buck and feed and educate people, give people a fair shake, and improve the quality of living for everyone. But hey, that's just my hippie, bleeding-heart liberalism showing.

Dude, your mantra is (unfortunately) so true. I love your Pied Piper reference. EXACTLY!
chantal87
Feb. 26th, 2008 06:45 pm (UTC)
People are fucking idiots!

We lived in a predominately Hispanic neighborhood while living in northern Virginia.

Holden went to pre-school at a local church. Out of the 20 children in his class only he and a tiny little girl named Drew were the only Caucasian children in attendance.
Holden came down with scarlet fever that year. He was hospitalized for three days. While he was in the hospital he was seen by one of the pediatricians from the doctors office I usually took him to.
The bitch doctor was astounded that he had scarlet fever. She then made the mistake by asking if he went to school with immigrant children. She thought that was the reason why he was so sick.
I was livid! Needless to say I gave her a piece of my mind and fired her on the spot.
I started taking him to an amazing doctor from Sri Lanka.
It broke my heart when we were transferred to North Carolina.
Dr. Wijetilleke and I still email.
stoney321
Feb. 26th, 2008 08:11 pm (UTC)
This whole "they bring diseases!!" thing is such utter bs!! I mean, if they're bringing anything across the border (which... are people in Utah really having issues?) it'll be things like diphtheria. Which your children should have been inoculated for, because that germ is STILL AROUND. Or tetanus. Which lives in the SOIL, regardless of the ethnicity of the person walking on it.

I'm sorry about your doctor. Man, I would lose my mind if we lost ours. *hugs you*
ruric
Feb. 26th, 2008 07:07 pm (UTC)
You rock.

That is all. *G*
stoney321
Feb. 26th, 2008 08:12 pm (UTC)
I'm fairly certain that you do, too. :D
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