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I finally caught up on a few things this weekend, such as the most recent episode of Dollhouse.

DOLLHOUSE - SPOILERS, DERR

I started getting REALLY BORED when all of the Jossverse conceits started piling up.

Switcharoo of the leader of Team Angel Dollhouse not being evil? Check.
Big office discussion where they all raise their hand to fight with Angel to the death and agree to Do This? Check.

They all kept piling up and then HOLY SHIT THEY SHOT RIVER. I mean BENNET. I may be an idiot for not seeing that one coming, whatever, I didn't. And with Boyd being the actual "head" of Rossum... Nice. I would have liked to see a return of Alpha, though. Also, I have a sneaky suspicion that Echo is the REAL person and Caroline is the doll. A doll that has been recycled over and over as Rossum tries to get it right. That would be pretty cool.

Any way, I almost gave up and then TOPHERBLOODFACEWHAAAAAT? I really like that actor.


Last night was the season premiere of Big Love, and if you don't know that I'm a devoted watcher of that show, you've not been paying attention.

BIG LOVE - SPOILERS, OBV.

I'm not giving a detailed analysis on this ep, because this was all just them getting their ball rolling. Although, if there are any Mos out there (or former Morg) didn't it bug you that they didn't get Testimony Meeting right? Then again, they only have an hour to tell a story, lol. (They'll get that joke.) A running gag in my book is how everything (EVERYTHING) ends up with a Testimony Meeting. In the name of Jesus Christ, amen. And for the record, you wouldn't use that time to just apologize (Nicki) nor would you say that you're excited about your new business and you know it's a true thing (Margie.) Eh, it needs to ring true to me, or I just think the writers read an article about some Mormonish behavior and tried to input that. Whatever - it's not affecting your viewing, just mine.

Um, I need Ben to never ever sing again. My shame meter was off the charts. Christian rock AND earnest dork trying to "rock out" set me off.

THE FOOD STORAGE BITS HAD ME LOL'ING. Y'all have no idea how accurate that was. It's just hilarious. See? That's why little details set me off, they get obscure things like FOOD STORAGE smack on, Testimony Meeting, which is so incredibly important to the experience doesn't deserve the same attention to detail? Anyway, sides of beef, row after row of canned goods, etc., the generator.... Although Nicki's mom would TOTALLY know how to hook it up. But then Nicki wouldn't have gone into the freezer, etc. etc. (I was waiting for her to be locked in, honestly.)

So did y'all know that Warren Jeffs has had homosexual allegations from the beginning? So if you were wondering where Albie might be headed, I'm just saying. They're following a LOT of rumors that swirled around that jackass.

Oh, another little detail that I appreciated (that just underscore my earlier complaint) was the church service with the three men on the dais. There have to be three leaders, btw. A bishop and two counselors. Nice little touch to have Ben be the second counselor.

It should also go without saying (but I'll say it anyway *G*) that Barb dealing with the loss of her membership to the church really affects me. That sense of loss, of needing to over compensate in other arenas, the struggle to prove (even if only to yourself) that you're a "worthy person" is so sad, because it's so true. Imagine that humanity decided you weren't a person. It's that extreme. I mentioned in a comment elsewhere that when you come out of that organization and start to see the real world around you, it's like up has always been down, and right has always been left. It affects EVERYTHING. That's how all encompassing it is. I know you can't understand that if you've not lived it, but really, it's just that extreme. (That's why there are so many bitter ex-mos.)

Anyway, I need some more eps to air so I can see where things are going.

I didn't realize that I'd missed an ep of Jersey Shore on New Year's Eve! Who the hell airs a new ep on that night? Esp. a show about people who party? I have to catch up on the Oompah Loompahs, is what I'm saying.

And because I need to completely expel this next thing. Been bugging me for days. A kid came to spend the night with The Boy on Friday. Horribly rude and blunt, and when *I* say a kid was blunt, that's saying something (I have a son with Aspergers. Blunt is the word of the day with us, yo.) He was bossy and lied about stupid things to my son, made up rules to a game to benefit him, but somehow those rules didn't apply when my son tried to use them to his advantage (eye roll), he was snotty to the girls, and when I asked the boys to clean up their messes, he looked at me, exasperated, and said, "We're going to finish this game, first." UM, EXCUSE ME? Naturally I smiled and said, "No, you'll do it now."

But the final straw for me was the food. I made shrimp Alfredo and zucchini for dinner. He hates shrimp. He hates pasta. He doesn't like sauces. (This is what he's telling me, btw. "I hate so and so.") No worries, I get that not everyone eats how we do. How about some beef stew? "I hate soup." O....kay, I would be happy to make you a sandwich, I have loads of fill- "I hate sandwiches." You hate sandwiches? Who the hell hates sandwiches? All of them? From grilled cheese ands PB&J to ham? "Yes." O_O

I have fruits, I have vegetables... "I hate all fruits and vegetables." All of them? Even the ones you've never had? (I actually asked that.) "Probably."

...cereal? "What kinds do you have?" He checked. "I don't like any of those."

I said, "Well, buddy, I don't know what to tell you." He called his mom, who brought him up some chicken nuggets and told us apologetically "that's all he'll eat." That and soda and candy. They have candy dishes all over their house. I had made 7 layer bar cookies and offered him one (figuring he's all about the sweet, right?) "I don't like almonds." Buddy, those are pecans. "Oh. I don't like pecans." You sure liked them when you ate 12 pieces of my fudge - laden with pecans - over the holiday break. "I don't like them any more."

The next morning he told me he only eats donuts for breakfast. So we took him home so his parents could feed his demanding ass. *g* I said this elsewhere, and I stand by it: you are doing your children a disservice if you do not teach them to eat well. You are doing your children a bigger disservice if you are not teaching your children to eat what they are served. They don't have to lick the plate, but they sure as hell should TRY what they're given (obv. barring food allergies or being vegetarian, etc.) I absolutely cannot accept that teaching your children manners (WHICH ARE FREE) is detrimental to their well being in any way, shape or form. I mean, honestly! What a turd. My son was embarrassed on his behalf. (It seems that my son is his first real friend, too. I can't imagine why.)

My daughter, who is hilarious and awesome, said to me at one point, "Didn't he watch Temple of Doom? 'This is more food than they have in a week. Eat it, you're being rude.'" And it's not like I served eyeball soup or monkey brains, for crying out loud! *cough* And I did try to accommodate him with other options, so it's not like I was saying, "Eat this or starve, kid." I'm not a jerk.

He has two younger brothers, all behave/act in the same way. My son is very uncomfortable at their house - they bark orders at their parents. UM, NO.

It was finally not single digits today so Sally Derg got a proper walk instead of me shoving her in the backyard with a ball. Lol. I just can't deal with a biting wind, which is why I don't live in places like Chicago, Detroit, etc. BRRRR. 40s is a more reasonable winter temperature. My little Hope kitty won't even go outside. She looks out of the door, sees things blowing around out there, then runs to my bedroom to curl up on a blanket. Ha. A cat after my own heart.

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entrenous88
Jan. 11th, 2010 03:31 pm (UTC)
The idea that people let their kids do what they want and feel all the time at meals, at bedtime, in conversation, resulting in kid-despotic behavior like this, is just so laughable (if it weren't also terribly sad). It's great to be spirited, opinionated, and have a personality! It's awful to refuse anything unfamiliar, offend people without noticing and grind their gears further when they react, and miss out on, you know, LIFE AND FRIENDSHIP AND FOOD!

But they're expressing themselves! Just turns out they have incredibly narrow and boorish selves? /o\

Heee, Hope! *turns on leetle warming pad for her*
stoney321
Jan. 11th, 2010 03:51 pm (UTC)
Yes, yes, a thousand times! There's a huge difference between teaching kids to think for themselves and to start handing them the tools to be independent adults and raising BRATS. I don't understand how that can be confusing (and assume that any argument to the contrary is disingenuous, truthfully.)

LOL. I heart you tunz.

OMG, she would never leave that spot! She would alternate between making a tight C and sprawling on her back, her too-warm belleh demanding snorgles.
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mumsisdaughter
Jan. 11th, 2010 03:33 pm (UTC)
Those kids are heading for lonely teen and adult life, probably trying to 'buy' friends. I bet you'd have him eating all sorts of good stuff if you had him a week.

Happy New Year btw!
stoney321
Jan. 11th, 2010 03:51 pm (UTC)
I cannot understand not enforcing that healthy food is good for a growing body. WHAT ON EARTH.

And to you, too!
harmonyfb
Jan. 11th, 2010 03:44 pm (UTC)
I figure all kids have one or two things that they just can't stand, and I don't mind working around that (my own son WILL NOT eat zucchini, and honestly gags when he's made to eat it. So he's not required to eat zucchini. Ditto for Peri and tomato sauce, so we make white sauce for her spaghetti.) But I have a cousin who was allowed to decide what he would and wouldn't eat - he's now in his thirties, and will still eat nothing but fried chicken, baked beans, pizza, and biscuits. He has terrible health problems. I'm sure you're shocked.
stoney321
Jan. 11th, 2010 03:53 pm (UTC)
Oh, right, right. My son haaaaates cooked tomatoes (not sauce, but chunky tomatoes.) I hate brussel sprouts. But when someone offers you multiple alternatives and EVERY ONE OF THEM is something you "hate?" I mean, seriously: who the fuck hates SANDWICHES?

And hahaha, yes, I'm totally shocked. :D
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stoney321
Jan. 11th, 2010 03:56 pm (UTC)
Waaah! it totally picked up, too!

And yes - toddlers eat crayons, pet hair, and colored liquid from sippy cups, but no discernible foods, I think we all accept that. :D But a TEENAGER. no vegetables? NONE? No fruit?! Who the hell hates all fruit? ALL of it?! Pffft.

I just think it's such a sign of wastefulness and (imo) American largess. It's FOOD. Fucking eat it. People all over the world don't have the choice and options as those of us in First World countries, how freaking spoiled is that? Now, I'm not suggesting that people stuff themselves, but the WASTE! (You know my hatred of waste.) Bah.

Good for you! And that menu is making me hungry, om nom nom!
arcana_j
Jan. 11th, 2010 03:46 pm (UTC)
Chicken nuggets, soda and candy? Seriously? And she delivered His Majesty's junk food? Oh, HELL no.
kuzu_no_ha
Jan. 11th, 2010 03:56 pm (UTC)
This is what got me too. She DELIVERED it to him. Plus the whole apologizing crap? I bet that if you don't do that for a few meals, he will eat other things rather than starve. o.0
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enigmaticblues
Jan. 11th, 2010 03:51 pm (UTC)
Oh, I think his parents need to be the ones to say, "Eat this or starve, kid." When I was little, we had to try a little of everything on the table, barring strong gag reflexes and food allergies (which I didn't develop until later). If we didn't like something, we were allowed to compliment the chef, then say, "Thank you, but you don't have to make that again."

Honestly, if I had a kid like that, I don't think I'd allow him/her to spend the night at another person's house. I would be too embarrassed!
stoney321
Jan. 11th, 2010 03:59 pm (UTC)
Oh, I'd never say anything blunt like that to a kid. Unless they were mine. :D I was a total brat as a kid, refused to eat things when I was little. Then I learned when I went to other people's houses that they served different food and it was a looooong time until I got home the next day. I don't mind being told, "I don't care for that, but thank you very much." It's the complete lack of propriety that slayed me!

And I would be embarrassed to find out my kid had acted like that, too. I don't have perfect kids by any stretch of the imagination, but HOPEFULLY I am teaching them to not make asses of themselves.
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roonilwazlib6
Jan. 11th, 2010 03:52 pm (UTC)
The mom going out of her way to bring him chicken nuggets just shows him that he can get whatever he wants, at least from his parents. Ugh, entitled children really grind my gears. I would be SO EMBARRASSED if my (still unborn) children acted that way.
stoney321
Jan. 11th, 2010 04:00 pm (UTC)
MMMM HMMM. I got the best piece of advice when I got married: if you start something now, be prepared to keep doing it for the next 50 years. Same goes for your kids. If you carry them around on a litter with peeled grapes, be prepared to do that when they're married, because you'll never find them a wife that will do that.
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brunettepet
Jan. 11th, 2010 03:52 pm (UTC)
That boy is unbelievable! He's in for a rough ride as an adult.

I forgot "Big Love" was premiering last night. I'd better set up Tivo.

i was all complainy about the cold, cold weather when my bro called and said it was 15 below in his neck of the woods. Okay, okay, so mid 20's isn't so bad. I'll just put on another sweater and find my ski gloves.
stoney321
Jan. 11th, 2010 04:02 pm (UTC)
You said it.

Yes! I'm looking forward to this season, all of the Nicki revelations from last season need some attention. :)

Oy, it's finally warming up here - we're supposed to get in the upper 40s today. Fingers (stiffly) crossed.
ann1962
Jan. 11th, 2010 03:55 pm (UTC)
So with you on this one. Kids eat what they are given. If parents give them crap, that is what they will eat.
stoney321
Jan. 11th, 2010 04:03 pm (UTC)
EXACTLY. Nothing but processed junk, according to my son. They were shocked he didn't want soda after soda and candy when he was over there.

If I may brag for a minute, my son asked why we don't normally have that stuff in the house, I mentioned that not only wasn't it good for their growing bodies, but my son has an actual allergy to food dyes (found in most processed foods.) He looked at me, then gave me a hug. :)
gehayi
Jan. 11th, 2010 04:10 pm (UTC)
What's a Testimony Meeting, what do you do at them, and why are they so common?

The kid sounds trés annoying. I might have pulled that when I was a toddler but not in middle school.
stoney321
Jan. 11th, 2010 04:19 pm (UTC)
Testimony Meeting is a specific format for the first Sunday of the month. Everyone fasts (no food of any kind for 24 hours, though many cheat and just skip breakfast and lunch) and then the Sunday service is turned over to the congregation to stand up and profess their beliefs. It's usually the same thing over and over and over again.

"I know that Joseph Smith was a prophet of god, I know this church is true, I love my family, I'm grateful for [insert church job] and I know that the Book of Mormon is true. In the name of Jesus Christ, amen." Every. Single. Person. Well, they might change up the beginning, or jazz it up with a story, but ultimately that's what said and you ALWAYS end with "In the name of..." Always. So I was bugged they didn't include that, but then, that's a lot of repetition for people who don't know.

Yeah, toddlers are just like that, picky. Teens? Time to buck up and get on board with the Manners Train, imo.
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aimeelicious
Jan. 11th, 2010 04:17 pm (UTC)
This is a bit of a hot-button issue for me, so please excuse the lengthy comment.

Growing up, I ate what was put in front of me, regardless of whether I liked it or not, and *had* to clean my plate. Honestly, this does not necessarily result in good eating habits either. The middle-ground where parents insist their kids try things and develop a well-rounded diet, but don't force them to eat specific things they hate, is the way to go. And I am glad to see so many of my parental-friends on LJ, including yourself, take this reasonable route. On a side note, restaurants are terrible culprits in contributing to the pizza/chicken nuggets/french fries/pasta food choices so many kids make. Have you noticed kids menus when you eat out? I'm sure you have--those items are often all that's listed, it's kind of appalling.

Your son's new friend has bigger problems--not only does it seem he has been terribly indulged in food matters, but in every other way as well. I am always reluctant to stand in judgment of people raising kids, since I have none of my own. Yet it pains me to see overly permissive, 'friend' parents who let their children walk all over them from an early age and never instill any manners or respect for others/society. The adults that come out of such environments are exactly the kind of people I loathe as co-workers, neighbors, tailgating drivers, rude customers, etc.

This apparently upsets me more than I realized. Thanks for letting me splooge all over your post; delete as needed =P
stoney321
Jan. 11th, 2010 04:24 pm (UTC)
Thank you for recognizing that I'm a MODERATE on this (as in, please try new things.) I'm not one of the "clean you plate, or else!" brigade. (I had a friend that completely missed that and went off on a tangent on me. o_0)

Kids menus!! YES. We don't usually get those. Waitresses seem surprised when my little Emily orders from the grown up menu. Once she ordered a huge bowl of broccoli from the sides menu. That's all she wanted. We go for sushi and she orders eel. (Those waitresses love her. *G*) Hamburger, nuggets, etc. at a Italian place? And having worked in restaurants for years, I know that all of that crap is that microwaveable stuff that's filled with chemicals. Bleh.

And again, THANK YOU FOR PICKING UP THAT HE'S BEING INDULGED ACROSS THE BOARD. If he's being catered to in one area, it stands reason that he's being catered to in others. Not helping your kid, madam. You're exactly right that these "entitled" brats cause grief when they're adults. That's all I ever hear from y'all that are teachers, work in libraries, etc. BAH.

Girl, you go rant ahead. I knew that I wasn't alone with this opinion, hence me bringing it here. :D
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stoney321
Jan. 11th, 2010 04:25 pm (UTC)
Adele wasn't. Up until the big reveal at the end (which I hadn't mentioned yet) we all believed Adele to be running that dollhouse? That was the point of how I wrote the post, we're all humming along with the old conceits and then BLAM (literally.)
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tinpanalley
Jan. 11th, 2010 04:26 pm (UTC)
Kids are unbelievable these days.

I’m ashamed to say that I have such a kid in my family. He doesn’t talk back, but my nephew definitely has food issues. His diet pretty much consists of chicken nuggets, mac and cheese, Chef Boyardee, and French fries. It’s ridiculous. He’s eleven.

Thankfully, he does eat some vegetables, but not many.

I really only see him when the family is all together. My stepmother refuses to cater to his whims, so he’s forced to eat what everyone does when we eat in. But, it’s a drawn-out process because he fights it the whole time. My brother has to keep pressuring him to take another bite and another bite and another...It gets to the point where my brother can’t participate in conversations because he’s paying so much attention to what his son is or isn’t eating.

We all worry about when or if this phase is going to end. My brother swears that he has a much more varied palate at home and I can only hope so. I hate the thought that he might be causing this kind of grief to his friends’ parents.

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stoney321
Jan. 11th, 2010 04:38 pm (UTC)
I had to make my MiL stop sitting at the table talking to my son while he ate his dinner. (He's a slow eater, he used to be a very picky eater. He was also in danger of going into cardiac arrest, so just letting him starve until he figures it out wasn't an option.) I give reminders to keep eating (or try, or whatever) but don't zoom in on it, otherwise I'd go crazy. That's me, though.

Hopefully your nephew will learn the beauty of broccoli, steamed and gently seasoned. :D
ruthless1
Jan. 11th, 2010 04:30 pm (UTC)
My friend is an ICU nurse. I think she takes care of the results of that kind of parenting. She had a patient that was close to FIVE HUNDRED POUNDS in the ICU (with heart problems) and his family was sneaking him McDonalds. They were also rather large too. And I do believe - uninsured. And they bossed her around terribly. She said the changes in patients in the last 15 years is just unbelievable. It's very sad and very scary to think that is a large part of the next generation.
stoney321
Jan. 11th, 2010 04:38 pm (UTC)
OH MY GOD BRINGING IN FAST FOOD TO THE HOSPITAL!?!??! Wow. That's so sad!
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crevette
Jan. 11th, 2010 04:31 pm (UTC)
More people need to beat their kids. 'Nuff said.
stoney321
Jan. 11th, 2010 04:39 pm (UTC)
LOL. dovil asked me privately if he wasn't eating because his mouth was too full with my fist? Because that's how she would have handled it. HAHAHA.

Dear Mr. FBI Man Reading this:

We are darkly sarcastic people. We don't actually punch children in the mouth. When we can help it. [example of dark sarcasm]

Cheers,
Attentive Mother
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wickedsin
Jan. 11th, 2010 04:37 pm (UTC)
"I'm sorry that's all he eats"?!?!?

Really?

Holy crap bad parenting there. On her end, not yours. I think you were awesome to give him so many alternatives. I can NOT believe she hand delivered food to him. It makes my brain hurt to think about it.

That so would have never gone over in my family.
stoney321
Jan. 11th, 2010 04:41 pm (UTC)
I don't think this was his first sleepover (at 14) but I think it's in a handful of them. I imagine she brings him food to other houses (unless they're eating junk, too.) And hey, we order pizza, we'll get the occasional burger, but not all the time!
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stephanierb
Jan. 11th, 2010 04:41 pm (UTC)

I was shocked by both Bennet and Boyd. I feel like I should've clued into the fact that it was someone close to them, but I was charmed by Boyd and I'm sad he's a baddie. I'm hoping there's another twist that won't make me hate him.

Yikes, that kid sounds like such a joy. ITA, his parents are doing him a total disservice and not just with his food. Your son is a good kid to put up with him, most kids won't and I can't really blame them.

I was a very picky eater growing up, but my parents employed the eat what's on your plate tactic and it totally backfired. My father was raised on mushy vegetables and that's exactly what I was served as a kid. To this day, I can't eat boiled carrots without gagging. And it influenced my attitudes towards other vegetables. I eat many of them now, but I was traumatized then and I was well into my teenage years before I would try them again.
stoney321
Jan. 11th, 2010 04:43 pm (UTC)
Man, me too!! I'm glad I'm not alone on the Dollhouse shocker. :D I think there's going to be a twist, I can't imagine Boyd being a complete asshole. Maybe a crazy genius, I like that idea more.

I like to think I'm a pretty good cook, so I don't force my kids to eat crappy food. And if I taste a new recipe and find it lacking, I tell the kids they don't have to eat it. (I mean, if I can't stomach it, I'm not going to force them to down it, you know?)

But jeez - moderation, folks!
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tabaqui
Jan. 11th, 2010 04:49 pm (UTC)
Wowkay. I really would *not* have called his mom. I'd have said - 'dude, you can eat what's here or you can drink water to fill up' and left it at that. He'd have caved eventually.

Or he'd have had a big sulky tantrum and then he'd have gone home, 'cause i do *not* put up with that kind of shite. Jayzus. His parents are really, really, really doing him 'wrong'. Blech.

Sounds, too, like a kid that can be quietly dropped off the 'okay to go over/come over' list.

It's actually a bit warmer here, too - the thermostat is set on sixty-two instead of sixty-five! Wheeee!
stoney321
Jan. 11th, 2010 04:56 pm (UTC)
Uh..... I didn't call his mom. *He* called his mom, and she showed up. (that's what it says up there after I told him, "Well, buddy I don't know what to tell you.")

My son was quite embarrassed on his friend's behalf. I can't imagine him coming over for a sleep over again. Or much of anything.
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a_mistletoe
Jan. 11th, 2010 04:52 pm (UTC)
Those kids = and parents - need Supernanny! I just want to smack them. Not pc I know but they've created a world of difficulty for themselves and their children. Tolerant you are. He would have been sent straight home in my house.
stoney321
Jan. 11th, 2010 06:31 pm (UTC)
JO JO WOULD CALL THIS UNACCEPTABLE!!
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gillo
Jan. 11th, 2010 05:18 pm (UTC)
My brother and his wife had kids who would only eat an incredibly restricted range - in one case, white bread, peanut butter and chicken nuggets with chips (fries)were all he'd eat, in the other she would only eat pasta if it was Buitoni tinned ravioli. Now I accept that a child may have a strong dislike for a specific food and should not be forced to eat it, but they should always be polite, accept what is offered if they possibly can and go without if they can't.

My girls were at different times anti beef, mushrooms and courgettes/zucchini. They now eat more or less everything they are given.

That visiting boy had far more restraint from you than he deserved, but it's his parents who need to be slapped around the head. With a very large fish.
stoney321
Jan. 11th, 2010 06:32 pm (UTC)
Like I've said elsewhere, I get people having dislikes. But he apparently dislikes EVERYTHING not soda or packaged candy! Uh huh.

"With a very large fish." Ahahahaha.
ipnotika
Jan. 11th, 2010 05:36 pm (UTC)
I am so not going to even start on Rude Boy. I swear, if I lived near you I'd have you call me in as Manners Ninja every time your MiL or some asshat child opens their mouth. /grumble

Big Love: As a fellow exmo, YES, it bothers me! LOL The whole damned show bothers me, actually, it makes me uncomfortable but I can't stop watching it. It's like a trainwreck. I hate Bill, I want to punch him in the face everytime I see him. I like and appreciate all the wives in their own way, and Sarah. I hate Ben. Hmm... are we seeing a trend? Anyhoozle, we just got HBO so I sat and watched all of season 3 on tivo friday and saturday so I'd be up to snuff for last night's premiere. I was knitting while simultaneously reciting the sacrament blessing, word for word, like it was a Monty Python sketch. My husband was a bit mortified. Can't help it. You hear that shit twice every single damned sunday, for 16 years, and it's ingrained.

I forgave their testimony meeting, however, as they've just started doing their own thing so I cut them some slack. ;) It amused me that Margie was the only one who "did it right" even if she did say she was grateful for a casino and knew their endeavor to be true blah blah.

Barb's situation just breaks my heart. Always has. :(

And I was TOTALLY waiting for Nikki's mom to lock her in the freezer, too!

Unrelated: Going to post about the bird advent later today. Keep watch! I'm really happy with how they came out!
stoney321
Jan. 11th, 2010 06:34 pm (UTC)
I'm right there with you on being uncomfortable with it, but being compelled to watch it, regardless. And lol with you hating the men. HEE. ME, TOO.

Oh my god, the number of times I've repeated various prayers along with them... BAH.

Oooh, I'll will keep an eye out, thank you!
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thebratqueen
Jan. 11th, 2010 06:21 pm (UTC)
Oh my god you have to catch up on Jersey Shore! The Grenade returns! WITH A FRIEND! It's the most awesome thing in the history of ever and then the ep JUST GETS MORE AWESOME.

Loved last night's Big Love. My thought with the meeting was that since Bill's starting his own church he was going to define it however the hell he wanted. So to a Mormon n00b like me I didn't read it as "This is what it's like" but rather "This is what Bill wants it to be like." For whatever that's worth to you.

Love your Echo/Caroline theory. 2 more eps to go, guess we'll find out.
stoney321
Jan. 11th, 2010 06:40 pm (UTC)
I watched this week's Jersey Shore, and wondered what ever happened after the fight! I just dl'd it, so I'll be caught up over lunch. I LOL'D AT THE GRENADE. And Pauly D calling them "white trash." As opposed to "burnt Umber Trash." LOL.

Wait... I thought Bill and Flat Top have had their own congregation for some time. ANd they're clearly setting up meetings/everything in the old school way. (Thing about LDS: every church all over the world follows the EXACT same format. Uganda, Russia, Idaho will all have the exact same topics/lessons on the same Sunday.) It's all about following procedures, so that's why I was bugged by the random non-LDS/FLDS stuff in there. The other Mos on my flist noticed that, too, if that's any consolation.

I'm looking forward to the final eps of Dollhouse, too. This is a show that definitely would have played out better over 3 seasons so these last eps wouldn't be so crammed/rushed.
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copykween
Jan. 11th, 2010 06:34 pm (UTC)
Rude Kid sounds like my nephew. *smack* It's really MUCH easier to raise your kids to be good, as opposed to them being entitled little shitheads. And yet, so many parets FAIL.
stoney321
Jan. 11th, 2010 06:41 pm (UTC)
See, that's my philosophy, too! It's easier to have rules, etc. when you just have to reinforce them in the beginning than having to constantly apologize/go behind your kids and fix things for the rest of their lives!
fabrisse
Jan. 11th, 2010 06:47 pm (UTC)
Imagine that humanity decided you weren't a person. It's that extreme. I mentioned in a comment elsewhere that when you come out of that organization and start to see the real world around you, it's like up has always been down, and right has always been left. It affects EVERYTHING. That's how all encompassing it is. I know you can't understand that if you've not lived it, but really, it's just that extreme.
I recently became an atheist, and I'm having some not dissimilar issues. People in DC invoke God a lot. There are religious things I'm expected to participate in because they're part of the culture. And we do not discuss science around here. I know it's not the same or anywhere near as extreme as what you probably went through, but I'm glad to know I'm not alone.

As far as food goes, I had a kid come stay with me years ago who would only eat white food. He was shocked to get cauliflower on his plate because he thought it would get him out of eating vegetables. Nope. Although, to be fair to the kid, when I called his bluff by serving an all white meal, he ate every bit of it.
stoney321
Jan. 11th, 2010 07:01 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I'm going through it all over again as an atheist, too! it's just... Boy, if I wasn't down on religion before, I sure am now. No, you're not alone.

Ahahaha, that's awesome!! And good for that kid for eating it - I bet he was so blown away by you following through, he didn't even think of fighting it!
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thefuzzyhat
Jan. 11th, 2010 06:54 pm (UTC)
That kid is gonna wash himself with a rag on a stick later on when his metabolism decides to slow the hell down.

I wish it was colder here in deh California, it's just 'toes are cold but the sun is shining on full blast' temp. Not enough to justify hot soups and those really fuzzy socks.
stoney321
Jan. 11th, 2010 07:00 pm (UTC)
Without, erm, saying too much, the parents are already there. :(

Man, you can have this freaky cold we've had! Single digits, snow... I'm in Texas for a reason, to avoid that stuff!
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