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I took my daughter, her BFF, and the BFFs mom (a friend of mine, thankfully!) shopping at some hip resale shops in Dallas (Dolly Python - I love that place) and if the lighting had been better for photography, I would have flooded your flists with images of amazing cut away coats and jodhpurs from 1890, and some really spectacular Mexican dresses from the 40s.

I did laugh at my daughter and her friend's enthusiasm over Roper boots with a kiltie. (Anyone? Bueller?) That was what the Goat Ropers in high school went bananas for (those and some Rocky Mountain jeans for that heart-shaped ass look). And let's get real here: goat ropers are so much more down to earth than barrel-racers, amirite?

*crickets* Any way... Take the kiltie off and they look like a more pointy-toed Doc Marten. And they're outstanding footwear. Still, I snerked.

I started watching White Collar the other night. I've had a tiny crush on Matt Bomer since he was the "villain" of Chuck's pilot episode, loved him after he was on Glee, and now that I'm watching him smirk and be the Most Charming Man On Planet Earth on this show, I would like to be baptised in the religion of Bomer. It's unreal how he manages to look like perfection and not be from another galaxy. HOW DO YOU HANDSOME. It's also a fun show. I don't feel fannish, but it's something I've been looking forward to watching at night when everyone's settled down.

NOW PLEASE TAKE MY POLL TO HELP ME UNDERSTAND HUMANS AND THEIR BEHAVIOR and there are questions about tacos.

Poll #1861673 Guyth? Thith ith a Theriouth Poll of Theriouthneth

I am:

the boss of you. (make the pronouns your own)
18(12.4%)
the god damned Batman.
33(22.8%)
what I yam.
57(39.3%)
the great. Pretender. (ooh-ooh! ooh-ooh!)
19(13.1%)
not sure why I am friends with you, Laura.
5(3.4%)
really sorry, Laura, for choosing that previous option.
8(5.5%)
the Alpha and Omega. (THIS IS ONLY FOR LIZ.)
5(3.4%)

My age range is:

high school or younger (and by checking this I acknowledge that I lied about my age to see your LJ)
0(0.0%)
18-24
15(13.5%)
25-30
21(18.9%)
31-40
42(37.8%)
old enough to not answer this, missy.
33(29.7%)

I am seeking for my fannish experience(s):

a strong sense of community, including (but not limited to) fic, art, videos, meta discussion.
63(41.7%)
all of the above AND social media speculation/spoiler riots.
28(18.5%)
nothing but wank! Bring on the crazies and the mocking!
7(4.6%)
to watch the source material and enjoy it - little to no interaction with others.
23(15.2%)
everything: the show, discussion, fic, art, media, cons, twitter wars, tumblr riots, fan cons, tie in novels, possibly actor stalking.
30(19.9%)

The way I prefer to express my fannishness is:

with a trusted group of fen. Mostly through emails or posts that are read by a small number of friends.
67(44.1%)
with anyone that will talk with me! OMG I LOVE MY SHOW/MOVIE/BOOK/PUNCH CARDS. Talk to meeeee!
32(21.1%)
reblogging .gif sets and funny statements. I don't really want to wax poetic.
34(22.4%)
by bitching about everything I don't like, in hopes that someone Important will see and FIX IT, for crying out loud.
5(3.3%)
some other way I will explain in comments.
14(9.2%)

I define "concrit" as:

"constructive criticism." Ex: "I enjoyed how you wrote the emotion of the scene, but couldn't quite understand the motivation for X character."
66(43.1%)
"constructive criticism." Ex: "Is there a reason you use the word 'keen' so many times? Is it a particular favorite? Just curious. Also, loved blah blah."
22(14.4%)
a way for me to try and convince an author to write what I would prefer.Hopefully they'll go back and edit things for the final chapter.
2(1.3%)
a way for me to say all the things I don't like about their fic. How else will they learn?
1(0.7%)
something I'm not comfortable doing. I'd rather lurk in the background and read what I like/close what I don't.
62(40.5%)

True or False: WiP stands for "Work in Progress." That means the product is NOT COMPLETE. The words The End haven't been reached in the author's world for this story.

True
108(100.0%)
False
0(0.0%)

With regard to a FINISHED story, I feel:

that the whole thing should be posted at one time, regardless of length. Just give me the whole thing, already.
20(10.4%)
that posting a chapter a day is fine. I like to be able to absorb that much (and not lose my day in the process of devouring a story.)
18(9.4%)
that posting a chapter a day is...okay. I wouldn't mind reading more if it was available, but I'm not going to get bowed up and rowdy about it.
48(25.0%)
that it's not up to me to determine how things should be posted.
72(37.5%)
happy, because I know I'm not going to be left for TWO WHOLE YEARS OH MY GOD SPARRINGTON FANDOM REMEMBER?! *cry cry*
34(17.7%)

TACOS! They should always be:

available. I mean, COME ON. Tacos!
76(46.6%)
in a crispy shell.
32(19.6%)
in a flour tortilla.
30(18.4%)
in a soft corn tortilla.
25(15.3%)

TACOS! Part 2. My preferred taco is:

ground beef, Taco Bell style.
32(16.0%)
fajita meat, be it chicken or beef. Mm, and grilled onions.
49(24.5%)
brisket, baby! With poblanos and pickled red onions and BBQ sauce!
11(5.5%)
Bread. Meat. Ketchup. (yes, I'm from Utah, why do you ask?)
2(1.0%)
from a truck on the road side with crazy and authentico fillings! (Cabrito, barbacoa, salsa verde, cojita queso...)
27(13.5%)
IN MY FACE HOLE.
60(30.0%)
what is a...tah-coe?
5(2.5%)
at least they didn't say TAY-co, because I'd have to never speak to them again.
12(6.0%)
I do not enjoy la comida de Mexico. Because I'm dead inside.
2(1.0%)




I really need a taco icon. (I had fantastic tacos yesterday for lunch, can you tell?)

Oh! Two last things, if you need reading material. 1. Teen Wolf is now at HDJM, and trust me when I say that you will love Liz's recaps, regardless of being in the fandom. 2. I wrote a short ficlet and posted it on Sunday, Klaine Fluff: "I Will Always Feel The Same.". :)

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dancetomato
Aug. 22nd, 2012 03:53 pm (UTC)
I would take this poll except for the fact that you are ageist and refuse to allow me an option to not lie about my age...
stoney321
Aug. 22nd, 2012 03:57 pm (UTC)
YOU CAN LIE ABOUT YOUR AGE BY CLICKING THE WRONG TICKY BOX.

Clearly your thinking on lying is too rigid.
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boro_girl
Aug. 22nd, 2012 03:57 pm (UTC)
I totally did not click the wrong age box at first, making myself to be older than I actually am. I totally did not click the wrong age box at first, making myself to be older than I actually am...
stoney321
Aug. 22nd, 2012 03:59 pm (UTC)
LOL!!

Well, this is a record that can be used in court, clearly, SO LET'S MAKE SURE YOU ARE 100% ACCURATE. :D
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poisontaster
Aug. 22nd, 2012 03:58 pm (UTC)
Tacos are like cheese. I LOVE good cheese. Something high end, well made with love, aged and tasty. But. Every so often, I get an inexplicable graving for Easy Cheese (spray cheese in a can). I'm not proud of it, but sometimes I want that awful, fake nostalgic taste of the thing I grew up with.

So I LOVE a good, authentic, tasty, tender, well made taco. LOVE IT. But...every so often, I want that awful, cheapo hard shell, barely spiced up ground beef monstrosity that was served to me so many times in public school. Just once in a while. In darkness and shame. :)

ETA: Also, regarding concrit. While on the one hand, I know what concrit is and it's something I'm very comfortable (and dare I say, good) at giving to my friends, in the writing process, unless someone specifically asked me, it's not something I'd EVER give to a posted, presumably finished piece, if only because the author is usually DONE with it, at that point and I'm not the story police. I don't mind receiving concrit and I'll point out typos, but I'm usually not comfortable giving it on a finished piece.

Edited at 2012-08-22 04:01 pm (UTC)
stoney321
Aug. 22nd, 2012 04:02 pm (UTC)
Oh, there is no question that there are times when you just need a flippin' cheap and easy Taco Bell taco. Sure, you may hate yourself after, but the cronch! *sad face*

The one where I just give my husband the most horrified look is when he gets a JACK IN THE BOX TACO. I should say "taco." I usually close my eyes, shake my head, and say, "You are so clearly born from the loins of a woman from Indiana. Shame on you."

It's easy for me to get good tacos here (I mean, durr) but sometimes when you're in particular parts of the city, there's no quality taqueria and you have to submit. And then rock in a dark corner, promising yourself you'll never do it again.

But you will. You will.
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robotsfighting
Aug. 22nd, 2012 03:59 pm (UTC)
WHITE COLLAR. I'm excited that you're watching it. I am in the midst of a White Collar renaissance. I was never in the fandom, I just knew a lot of people there and I liked the show a lot, but now I am reading all of the Neal/Peter/El OT3 fic and I have the backstory of this big Glee crossover 'verse all mapped out in my head that I will never write in a million years.
stoney321
Aug. 22nd, 2012 04:03 pm (UTC)
flaming_muse has been patiently waiting for me to get on the bandwagon for some time, now, and has been texting me from her vacation: "DO YOU LOVE ___? OMG!" Hee!

...and if you happen to have a recs page, or something, why, I sure would not look askance at that!
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dareu2beme
Aug. 22nd, 2012 04:13 pm (UTC)
excellent poll is excellent


also:



enjoy.
stoney321
Aug. 22nd, 2012 04:19 pm (UTC)
LOL!
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jenbooks
Aug. 22nd, 2012 04:16 pm (UTC)
Theriouth Poll of Theriouthneth!

A taco with a soft flour shell is a burrito NOT THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT!!

OMG I never liked mexican food (I was raised in the Pacific Northwest) until I moved to Arizona. Love AZ Mex, NM Mex, and Tex Mex as well. But what's really great is finding a great little mexican place that serves Interior - omgomnomnom.

Re Fandom:

I dunno, I wouldn't call myself into fandom, but I like me some good fan-fic. SO I guess I am. Into it, that is. YOU. I love your writing and I have not yet been steered wrong from your recs.


I also just bought season 3 glee and I'm contemplating having a three season marathon. I may be a while. Send tacos.
stoney321
Aug. 22nd, 2012 04:21 pm (UTC)
"A taco with a soft flour shell is a burrito" LET ME LOVE YOU. (Or it's Tex-Mex, but that depends STRICTLY ON THE FILLING. AKA: my beloved brisket tacos.)

But that's the only one. THE ONLY ONE. I love Mexican cuisine, holy smokes. Ocean-side, pueblo-style, old school Mexico city style, Tex-Mex, Cali-Mex, etc. LOVE.

(Are you reading FM's "Near Misses?" I'm telling you, it's the best story in fandom, period. With no offense meant to the great writers I'm friends with, it's just THAT. GOOD.)

I WILL SEND TACOS, OF COURSE. (And happy recaps that have good discussions in them can be found on HDJM, jsyk. ;D) ENJOY SEASON 3! I happened to love it.
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marlo
Aug. 22nd, 2012 04:23 pm (UTC)
Vegetarian tacos for me!

I make them at home with refried beans, avocado, and salsa. DELICIOUS
dareu2beme
Aug. 22nd, 2012 04:25 pm (UTC)
can i come over for supper?
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brainchild129
Aug. 22nd, 2012 04:27 pm (UTC)
Sadly there wasn't an option for my favorite kind of taco - the one with the shredded pork tingas in chipotle sauce I got from my local coop grocery, which tastes like spicy heaven.
stoney321
Aug. 22nd, 2012 04:32 pm (UTC)
THAT WOULD BE THE MUY ATHENTICO VERSION! (Taco truck is irrelevant, the toppings are what mattered!)

Also, NOM. That's the typical way we make them at home! <3
mpoetess
Aug. 22nd, 2012 04:40 pm (UTC)
Concrit is: something I'm not comfortable doing too lazy to do unless asked for it, and even then they'd better really mean it and I'd better know them well enough to know they'll react sanely, because life's too short to deal with wank from people who say they want critique but... don't. I'd rather lurk in the background and read what I like/close what I don't.
stoney321
Aug. 22nd, 2012 04:48 pm (UTC)
Yep - if it's someone I REALLY know and they've asked me for it, you bet! Otherwise, I just back out if I'm finding the fic to be problematic.

We read the same, cookie. :D
niitza
Aug. 22nd, 2012 04:47 pm (UTC)
For the sake of validity this poll obviously needed at least one person who had no choice but to choose the seventh answer to the last question. I happily volunteered for the sake of science.

(And I'm not lying. I... kind of had to google it to make sure that no, I didn't know what it was. We don't have those around here. *sigh*)
stoney321
Aug. 22nd, 2012 04:49 pm (UTC)
NO TACOS?! Oh, woe is you! Hand-food of the gods! The Incan and Mayan gods! :D
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singinglark
Aug. 22nd, 2012 05:00 pm (UTC)
TACOS! NOM NOM NOM. Actually the best place to get them is from the taco truck in West Yellowstone, Montana, which is unfortunately a very inconvenient location for me.

Fannishness--I have one or two people I discuss fandom stuff with, one online and one in RL. I have transferred all my fic to AO3 because I need to draw a line between fandom and the rest of my life, and I comment there but not on LJ. Actually, I mostly read fic at AO3, because it is ridiculously easy to download fic to my nook.
stoney321
Aug. 22nd, 2012 05:07 pm (UTC)
..there are taco trucks in West Yellowstone now?! They most definitely did NOT have them when I worked there years ago! (Although one of the best pizzas of my life was had at Leek's Marina in the Tetons.)

I like to follow WiPs on LJ and read completed stories from the AO3 on my Kindle. But I'm an old school fangirl that loves to share excitement with others. I'm finding that harder to experience, though. It's becoming a smaller and smaller group of RL friends that I have online (ha) that know how I feel about spoilers, hate-meta, etc.
elisi
Aug. 22nd, 2012 05:02 pm (UTC)
The way I prefer to express my fannishness is:
Writing meta. Sometimes 2 people comment. Sometimes 20. Sometimes LOTS MORE. As long as everyone behaves themselves, that's fine. I'm all about the lurrrve & the analysis - if they want to bitch, they can go elsewhere. I'm in it for the metaphors! (And all the 'feels' as the kids say these days.) Oh and I also do fic and general flailing. But if something hits my buttons - meta it is.
stoney321
Aug. 22nd, 2012 05:09 pm (UTC)
"I'm all about the lurrrve & the analysis" - I'm with you! I do not want bitching. That's not to say that we can't have an adult conversation about things that could be problematic, but I don't want people coming into the discussion with an agenda of "I hate this and want you to hate it, too."

I'm having a hard time finding meta for the things I love that aren't coming from a position of "I can't believe I'm even WATCHING this crap, UGH." (They need to just admit that they love it, and then talk about their feelings. Haha.)
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fabrisse
Aug. 22nd, 2012 05:30 pm (UTC)
My mom grew up on the Mexican border and makes traditional Mexican. I hate it. Can't stand the texture of corn tortillas. Really dislike jalapenos. The whole nine yards. I've found lots of other things to love in traditional (and untraditional) Mexican cuisine, but, sadly, tacos have passed me by.

On the fannish side... Don't force spoilers on me. Everything else is acceptable. With a couple of authors I really adore, I'll read WiPs, but for most, I don't touch it until it's done.

I notice you didn't have series on there. I think of them differently from WiPs, but some people don't seem to. What's your take on them?

And I'm 51.

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stoney321
Aug. 22nd, 2012 05:55 pm (UTC)
OMG FABRISSE.
LOL! There's always one with every poll... (I'm not actually a census taker, in case you were just making sure that my data reflected the population.)

Well, I exclusively post serials, so I'm a fan of them! I get irritated by people calling them WiPs. No, they're finished! We're just going the old fashioned route like Sherlock in the newspapers of yore! I find them fun - just enough time to absorb the current chapter and think about it before moving on to the next. I like to take my time with things, though.
ryokomusouka
Aug. 22nd, 2012 05:38 pm (UTC)
WHAT ABOUT FRY BREAD!?

Ok, I'm good now.
stoney321
Aug. 22nd, 2012 05:55 pm (UTC)
WHAT ABOUT FRY BREAD?!
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wandering-bat.insanejournal.com
Aug. 22nd, 2012 05:39 pm (UTC)
Tacos! I'm good with crunchy tacos, I don't come from a family of good cooks and I'm not a particularly talented cook myself. Shell, meat with powdered taco seasoning, cheese, lettuce and salsa! But I found a couple of strip-mall restaurants that I need to check out so that I have a Mexican place to go around here.

I find that I'm usually late to the fandom party, so my experience is more along the lines of lurking, leaving comments three years after the fic has been posted, and learning about the existence of awesome stories that have been taken down in another story's comments. However, I learn more from discussions, even when I'm finding it after-the-fact. So I guess I like a more interactive platform even when I'm just being a voyeur?
stoney321
Aug. 22nd, 2012 05:57 pm (UTC)
The Betty Crocker Taco! It's an American classic for a reason. :D

Oooh, do those fic writers love you for coming in 3 years later!! That's awesome of you to still leave comments!
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stoney321
Aug. 22nd, 2012 06:19 pm (UTC)
Yes, yes, you are a member of the NO SPOILER tribe, for which I appreciate!

It is NOT horrific that you like burritos, because that means more tacos for me! :D
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strtmyorange
Aug. 22nd, 2012 06:21 pm (UTC)
OMG! TACOS!!! Now I want some for lunch. Curse you, Stoney! I still dream about the chili verde tacos I got at a Chevron station "food court" outside Fresno!! Best. Tacos. EVER!!! We're getting a lot of taco "boutique" restaurants popping up in Chicago. Yeah, they're nowhere near as good as those Chevron tacos! Give me the little, dingy, very authentic taquerias any day.

Ah, White Collar. I have to watch it while wearing sunglasses; Matt Bomer's beauty & charm, iz blinding me!! Es too calor, senor!!

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stoney321
Aug. 22nd, 2012 08:25 pm (UTC)
omg, there is a gas station in Dallas that is FAMOUS for their tacos. It's a former 5 star chef that cooks for them, too!

NOM NOM NOM.
poshcat
Aug. 22nd, 2012 06:26 pm (UTC)
I can't believe the last age group in your poll is "41 - dead". Woe!

At this point, I just enjoy my little fandoms by looking at random GIFs that float by and...that's about it. I'm not very rabid, am I?

PS Let's just say Canada isn't knows for its superiour tacos, shall we?

stoney321
Aug. 22nd, 2012 08:25 pm (UTC)
I assumed that people wouldn't want to specify after 40! Or tell me to mind my own business.

I NEVER GET IT RIGHT, POSH. Never.
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withoutwords
Aug. 22nd, 2012 07:23 pm (UTC)
I express my fannishness by acting out little mini-scenes with characters while I'm driving around to and from work, sort of a spoken, unrecorded fanfiction? Free-form monologue? Is it still a monologue if I'm acting out more than one character? At any rate, I'm sure it's highly entertaining to anyone passing me on the road...

But if I hear someone talk about a fandom that I enjoy, I might engage in a little bit of squee-ing with them and excitedly chitter about it, if they're someone I feel really, super comfortable with.
stoney321
Aug. 22nd, 2012 08:26 pm (UTC)
Hee!!! I love the idea of you acting out scenes while driving around. I would give you a thumbs up if I was at a stop light next to you.
menomegirl
Aug. 22nd, 2012 07:27 pm (UTC)
I answered some of the fannish questions based on things I've done in the past. Nowadays, I just mostly watch the shows I like, read the occasional review and well...chill out by myself. I don't honestly think I'll ever be as fannish about anything the way I was about Buffy & Angel.

Also KETCHUP ON A TACO?????? That should be against the law! *shudders*
stoney321
Aug. 22nd, 2012 08:27 pm (UTC)
I just had a 2 hour long conversation with crazydiamondsue about old fandom (Buffy days!) habits and behavior, and how it was the bar that was set for the both of us, as well.

KETCHUP. ON A 'TACO.' I almost fled back to Texas the first time I saw it. (Don't get me started on their "guacamole".)
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dovil
Aug. 22nd, 2012 07:38 pm (UTC)
Was cathartic poll cathartic? :)
stoney321
Aug. 22nd, 2012 08:24 pm (UTC)
I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT SOMEONE CHECK HER BREATH FOR ALCOHOL.
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monkeyforlove
Aug. 22nd, 2012 07:48 pm (UTC)
Oh _White Collar_ is such a guilty pleasure. Matt Bomer is so handsome it's ridiculous, but I have to say that Tim DeKay is my crush of choice!

As to fandom (I was told to explain in the comments :), I tend to lurk. I love to read meta, commentary, and fanfic, but I don't really know how to create a space for myself here (that's probably just part of my general social ineptitude because I can't do it in outside-internet life either). So I comment on fic and occasionally join in here and there. Overall I only follow people I think are awesome, so it's okay to watch, although I do feel a little like an asshole and/or a creeper for not engaging more.

And hard-shell only for tacos. But no fish - I know people love them, but I like to go old-school, beef only for me! Probably also a nostalgia thing because my favorite fast food growing up was Taco Bell . . delish!

stoney321
Aug. 22nd, 2012 08:32 pm (UTC)
Goodness, I am just enjoying the hell out of that show. It's easy to watch, FUN to watch, and the actors all clearly like one another. THAT IS MY #1 KINK RIGHT THERE. (I am growing quite fone of Mr. DeKay, let me tell you!)

You are one of those fic commenters that I enjoy immensely. Not just on my few stories, but on others as well. You're insightful, clearly enjoying the pairing and how they're being portrayed, and it's just a lot of fun to read your thoughts if we're reading the same story. :D (ftr, I don't think it's creepy for people to lurk in the background.)

LE GASP. No soft corn tortilla, then? *sobs* Wait, that means more for me! :D
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heresluck
Aug. 22nd, 2012 07:56 pm (UTC)
I am laughing at my own occasionally contradictory answers to your poll. It depends! Am I watching Buffy or Slings & Arrows? Can I have roasted poblanos on my chicken taco? Maybe I want tamales! (...well, actually, I almost always want tamales.)
stoney321
Aug. 22nd, 2012 08:36 pm (UTC)
You're about to receive a package: it is the KEY TO MY HEART. Also known as tamales. Or poblanos (which are a must on a proper taco - roasted and smokey goodness!)

And this was a VERY SCIENTIFIC POLL OF SCIENTIFICALNESSHOOD. So it's really important that you answer correctly. Or something. (ha)

I think my tendency to approach fannishness the way I did with Jossverse is my hang up. I'm used to the academia-angle, the intelligent discussions, the amazing writers - so many you couldn't swing a lolcat without hitting one. And everyone was HERE.

*waves cane*
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mecurtin
Aug. 22nd, 2012 08:39 pm (UTC)
When I ticked "a way for me to try and convince an author to write what I would prefer" I was specifically thinking of "without so many typos and SPAG errors", which is what I prefer.
stoney321
Aug. 22nd, 2012 10:47 pm (UTC)
Someone needs to make an ROT-13 type app that spell checks. And grammar checks. And takes out OOCs and OTT behavior.

HOW ABOUT IT, SCIENCE?
elizardbits
Aug. 22nd, 2012 09:56 pm (UTC)
stoney321
Aug. 22nd, 2012 10:48 pm (UTC)
HOW DARE YOU POST THAT MOST VILE OF CONCOCTIONS! IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE SOUR CREAM ON IT.

Um, did you see that two other people CLEARLY THINK THEY ARE YOU IN MY POLL? Harumph, I say!
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Reading this? I'm just curious. Because that's really detail-oriented of you. Feel free to stop reading. But you can see that there's more here, so are you going to keep reading? Really? That's pretty dedicated. I'm impressed. No, really. I'm not being sarcastic, why do you get like that? See, this is the problem I have with your mother - yes. YES. I'm going there. It's time we put all of our cards on the table.

I love you, why are you doing this? After all we've been through? You don't have to be like this. You know, still reading. You could be baking a pie. And then sharing it with me.

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