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WHEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!

HAPPY ST. PATRICK'S DAY!" and Happy B-day to solipsae!

I'm going to check your journals, and if there isn't green, you're getting a pinch. And I don't mean a comment by xanphibian, either.

The sun is shining, the tank is clean, yummy breakfast, chatted with friends, off to walk 8 miles in the sun. Whee!! I want some LJ spam today. I want to know why (or why not) certain things squick you, certain things turn you on, gimmie! And NO this has nothing to do with my recent fascination (obsession) with Connorcest. Nope. I don't like incest, BTW. Well, THERE'S a sentence I never thought I'd write. I don't think anyone LIKES incest. *facepalm* I'm not sure what it is about Connor that makes me want hurt/comfort, but boy hidey, I do.

What does it for you? Spike shanshu-ing and finding Buffy? Xander being bent over by Spike/Giles/Forrest? Ha ha. I want the bullet-proof kinks here. Gimmie!!

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julia_here
Mar. 17th, 2005 08:02 am (UTC)
But, but, but... I don't know how to code for green.

Speaking of green, rained here yesterday, settled the dust and put enough growth on the yard grass (NOT lan;putting a fence around Seven Star Pasture Mix and mowing it six or seven times a year does not a lawn make) that I need to start with the threats of gross bodily harm to those who can get the mower started to cut the stuff or be maimed.

Julia, shuddering at any more code, thanks to all those AAW posts
stoney321
Mar. 17th, 2005 08:06 am (UTC)
Hee!! Copy and paste this: [font color="#55AE3A" size ="3"]*PINCH!*[/font] - replacing the [] with <> and there you have it.

I drug out my 10 blade reel mower Monday and got an upper body workout. (It weighs about 45 pounds, but I have a putting green! Not technically, but you get my meaning) I think I convinced my husband to put in more flower beds. Plants = less work than grass, by a LONG shot.
julia_here
Mar. 17th, 2005 08:47 am (UTC)
Plants = less work than grass, by a LONG shot.

Oh, yeah, you know it. Thing is, we're on excessively drained coarse sand, according to the guys who do the septic tank permitting, so we have 1000 square feet of drainfield, none of which can have shrubs or anything useful on it, five trenches three feet wide and four feet apart and I am so not up to basic math this morning. Anyway, it amounts to about 50'X50' of mown lawn, with another 20X10 between the house and the greenhouse, and then there's the insanity which is the shade yard, about 30X50, with mown paths and flower beds and a big native plant bed.

Oh- and the iris garden, where I really need to get ground wood and mulch all the paths because they're a 100% bitch to mow.

Green. I'll be green in a bit. Must go wake up and check cows (six babies now, on this place, plus another 20 or so in the Angus herd).

Julia, feeling sedated

stoney321
Mar. 17th, 2005 09:57 am (UTC)
Babies!! *Pets their noses, scritches that one spot between ears*

I wonder if you could grow Buffalo grass in your 50' X 50' spot? It's a prairie gras = no supplemental water, no mowing, pretty.

I'm putting in a bluebonnet flower bed later today. *cough*in the shape of Texas*cough*
julia_here
Mar. 17th, 2005 10:02 am (UTC)
I think Buffallo Grass is one of those things that needs more something or less something than this climate can provide- probably drier winter conditions, like pronghorn antelope, which mold here in the winter. My dad tried growing every possible pasture/lawn crop and a few which were pretty far out there, like Kochia, and Sudan Grass (which gets toxic after if freezes, oops).

We don't irrigate the lawn so it's only mowed spring and fall.

Julia, we've got the neighbors trained to not use lawn chemicals and feed clippings to the cattle
stoney321
Mar. 17th, 2005 10:11 am (UTC)
Green! We're talking green!
If you have sandy soil, not much other than nitrogen shouldbe put on a lawn, and the lawn clippings themselves should suffice.

*nods at your good sense*

Or he can take a piss out there every day.
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stoney321
Mar. 17th, 2005 09:59 am (UTC)
*green writin' here*
Yup. Uh huh.

Eyeliner? Check.
Hot and well written? Check.
Minus the Anne Rice BS? Check.
Hot lingo? Minus "pussy bone?" Check.
Chicks with dicks a no no? Big CHECK. I like MEN, thanks. (Well, I like women, but I like a bit of MAN in my man. Insert dick joke here_______.)
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smashsc
Mar. 17th, 2005 10:45 am (UTC)
Re: *green writin' here*
Okay, so where are yall finding the chick with a strap-on fics? And why don't you point me that way?

I'm not saying it is a kink, I'm just saying it is something I enjoy.

As far a actual kinks go, I have a hand kink. Hands on faces, grabbing, etc? yes please. I love things that are just about hands touching (though I like that too) but things that are about how hands feel.

Also re: 8 miles in the sun, I hate you.; It snowed here today. I live in NC. Today is St Patrick's Day. It snowed this morning. That is just wrong. So wrong.
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smashsc
Mar. 17th, 2005 11:16 am (UTC)
Re: *green writin' here*
ah, those chicks with dicks.

Yes yes, I'm against those as well.

Overly purple prose and characters that don't make sense = bad.
stoney321
Mar. 17th, 2005 11:07 am (UTC)
Neener neener neener!!
HEEE!!!

"Chicks with dicks" isn't the def you are thinking of. It refers to folks who write boys in fic (say, XANDER) to be a woman who happens to have a penis. Meaning, they have forgotten that the person they are writing is a MALE. Like, forgetting about the balls and having them do something that would cause an actual man INCREDIBLE discomfort.

That's what I meant.

I, too, would like to find a strap-on fic. Guh.
smashsc
Mar. 17th, 2005 11:19 am (UTC)
Re: Neener neener neener!!
okay now I understand why yall don't like your definition of chicks with dicks.

Now actual chicks with strap-ons, OMG guh and there should be fic. Between Faith, Lilah & Cordy (hell thrown in Kennedy too) at least one of them should have a toy collection. I'm just sayin.
paynbow
Mar. 17th, 2005 09:40 am (UTC)
Hmmmm...what squicks me is incest. When people have a story that reads in the warning line "This fic contains two 16 year old brothers going at it" I walk run the other way. But I'm always willing to make exceptions when it fits the plot or similar. And...the whole "he forced her to have sex with him and...she liked it!" thing doesn't really do it for me. I've read a couple of stories where Spike kidnaps and rapes Buffy in S3 and she ends up with him...gah? My other squick is not so much a squick as a serious hatred: Bangel. I don't read Bangel fics at all. It's not that I wish to see Buffy or Angel with someone else and so that wish blinds me to their twoo wuv, it's that I find it to be the most insipid love story. The don't actually know or trust each other. Theres is the type of love where they would have both killed themselves before finding out that their little foibles pissed each other off. And I apologize to Bangel shippers, but I can't help hating it.

As for what I like in stories...interesting sex. I hate "insert tab A into slot B" smut writing (when the story is supposed to be smutty...if not then a less detailed smut scene is acceptable *g*). Give me toys, or different positions, or more than two people, or really good (NOT alligator) descriptions, or something! I'm reading the stories to be entertained! Although some of the more...steamy...stories I've read have been about something small like a blow job, but just described very well (NOT like a Pope ring). So, yeah, I'm in it for the good writing. I'm pretty much willing to accept anything, so long as it's not one of my major squicks and so long as it's written well.
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paynbow
Mar. 17th, 2005 09:49 am (UTC)
Awww...thank you! I never get enough of people telling me how smart I am *g* And OF COURSE I like both of you guys! You write wonderfully! *smooches* Happy St. Patty's!
stoney321
Mar. 17th, 2005 10:09 am (UTC)
HA HA!! I made you read Angel AND incest!! Sucker!

I generally am not into incest fic. That being said, I don't see Angel/Connor as incest. Huh? Lemme 'splain. "Connor" is a baby. Forever a baby. Stephen - was the child/is the young man now. (As in, S4 timeline) Holtz, for better or much, much worse is the "father" of Stephen.

Angel's family (Darla, Dru, Spike) is a family of fabrication, and I think Connor fits into that. It isn't incestuous when Darla and Angel (make a pairing, pick a pairing) come together, so it isn't the same for me.

Now. There is a sense of parenthood/ father-son/ you belong to me/ trust that is at risk in C/A, but not like you having a baby, or you and your brother.

Ultimately, it's a new kink and I'm all about the justification. (Kink as in Connor/Angel, not any other incest fics that may exist)
paynbow
Mar. 17th, 2005 10:20 am (UTC)
I get your logic (now isn't that scary *g*) yet I still think of Connor as Angel's son. However, your story fell into well written AND makes sense with plot. *smooches* Plus, you had that clear distinction in there...that Connor/Stephen doesn't think of himself as Angel's son.

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stoney321
Mar. 17th, 2005 01:28 pm (UTC)
I see, I see!

As to Connor/Angel, have you seen the Counting Bodies vid? OH MY GOD. It will turn the non-Con into OMG, Connor!

*hides chicken bones and fragrant smoke that brought about your snow*
bisi
Mar. 17th, 2005 11:32 am (UTC)
ooh. That was a useful bit of code *runs to save it in stickies*

Man, you made me read incest fic and it was ...hurty.

I find I get more sqicks the more I read. I used to read everything, but now there's certain stuff I'll only read if it's by a particular author like (see above) or RPS.
Most of those Authors are Tesla! i think it's the affection she has for the characters, makes reading her...affirming, or something.
Not that I don't like a good dose of h/c and heroism every now and then.
(Not going to talk about mad silly Stoneyfic cos that would be smooching)
stoney321
Mar. 17th, 2005 01:31 pm (UTC)
Ack! I know. I don't normally do the incest fics. But... *points above where I was verbose on the topic*

And I'm quite particular. There have been many fics where I've started, and after a few paragraphs(sentences) have had to say out loud, "No thanks!" and click away. I'm sure there was a BUNCH of that in my LJ this week. most of my flist is Spuffy or Spander.

I just like reading good fics, and if there's good smut? Bring it.

(But my heart will always belong to the Parody...)
hellespont
Mar. 17th, 2005 11:35 am (UTC)
Happy St. Patrick's Day, Stoney! My Irish eyes are smiling at you. Now, enough wholesome revelry, onto the kinks (most of which I'm aware :

Hurt/comfort. That's the main one, the one that encompasses most of the others. I generally like the more physically vulnerable of the pair to be the hurtee (so Angel comforts/defends/rescues Wesley, Spike comforts/defends/rescues Xander, etc). This is a common paradigm, and one really prone to being badly and/or preposterously written, so the ones who do it well (TheBratQueen, Willshenilshe, the Reality Bends RPG, the Snakes and Ladders RPG, and many others) have my eternal gratitude. The bigger the hurt the better, as long as the relationship remains stable. I like the conflict/trauma to come from the outside.

The courtly love is also fun: Vampire Boy mooning over Human Boy from afar, devoted, wanting him, but feeling unworthy.

I also really like the vampire/human relationship because of the OMG!mortality!angst. Nothing's better than a nice long schmangsty fic where Human Boy gets hurt, gets cared for, and gets better, but Vampire Boy is still shaken to the bone by the reminder that his lover will die for real one day.

By that token, I really don't like turning fics. I like Vampire Boy to think about it, ask about it, maybe even beg to do it, but Human Boy must demur. Plus, I really can't see Xander or Wesley going for it.

I don't have any real squicks (other than extremely underage stuff, I guess) but some things that don't interest me are among the most popular with others: Crossdressing, bdsm, bloodplay, most Spangel (unless it's funny, in which case it's gold), hatesex, and, um graphic sex in general. Yeah, I kind of just skim over it unless it's really emotional or else reall, really good. I'm here for the hearts and flowers, dammit!
stoney321
Mar. 17th, 2005 01:34 pm (UTC)
Actual pedophilia would make me want to hunt the author down and hurt them, so yea, underaged children is not to be read in my book. I can't imagine a crossfressing fic that I would want to read. Haven't come across any, come to think of it...

It depends on my mood (and the writer) Read a FANTASTIC and EXPLICIT fic last night that was just RAW. I think there are some writers who can give you all the details and sensation of experiencing what the charactes are without resorting to shoving a camera up someone's ass and counting off the hairs, you know?

I don't generally like the turning fics, either. It seems a cheat somehow.

Happy St. Patty's Day to you! We're Scots! Um, Mr. Stoney is. NA Indian and straight-up Danish for me. *drinks anyway*
somecandytalkin
Mar. 17th, 2005 12:13 pm (UTC)
I want the bullet-proof kinks here. Gimmie!!

Hee! and boy hidey:)

Can't answer. Writing pr0n.
stoney321
Mar. 17th, 2005 01:35 pm (UTC)
Porn!! Hooray!!

Gimmie!

*PINCH!*
For you anyway. You're too cute not to!
tx_cronopio
Mar. 17th, 2005 12:25 pm (UTC)
OK, I'll dive in. My completely subjective squicks: ANYTHING with Connor (sorry, Stoney!), daddy!kink, incest, Wesley being psycho-stalker-opresso-boy, BD taken too far into real life (I love TBQ but Pet and Protocol are a little much for me)

Kinks: Giles spanking or being spanked, British accents in general, m/m in the library, oh, who am I kidding, m/m anywhere, Anyone smashing Spike against a wall and then kissing him, fun B/D, and have you read that thing JaneDavitt wrote about Giles and Oz and Xander and Devon at the Spa???? OK, I'll be in my bunk.
stoney321
Mar. 17th, 2005 01:40 pm (UTC)
Giles. Guh. Yes, please.
Dude, it is not going to hurt my feelings in the slightest that you didn't want to read my Connor having sex with Angel, and Angel cries and moans, and Connor is surprised by the depth of feeling he never knew he had, and then Connor is secretly planning to.. Oh. But you wouldn't want to read it, and I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. Hee!!

I am so there on Giles' dolling out the punishment. Guh. That being said, I have ABSOLUTELY NO DESIRE to read about Oz in a sexual manner. None. Nada. Seth Green does nothing for me sexually. He's the guy I want to hang out with on a patio late at night. Or go camping with. He was the perfect first boyfriend, and therefore (IMO) innocent of sweaty sex. He was just the cool guy to hang with and have sweet cheek to cheek moments with. And I know I'm in a shrinking minority... (It took me FOREVER to figure out who "Devon" was. And apparently the guy is HUGE in fandom! Who knew?)

But don't leave me Pat!! I can't help that I'm HEAD OVER HEELS in love with Connor/VK!! *cries* He's so innocent and strong and evil and feral and thin with perfect little dark nipples... Hee!!
tx_cronopio
Mar. 17th, 2005 01:43 pm (UTC)
Re: Giles. Guh. Yes, please.
I'll never leave you, hon! If nothing else, I need someone in Dallas to drink margaritas with. I'll give you your Connor if you'll let me have my Giles, who yes, occasionally, has hot monkey musician sex with ... yes... Oz.

Hooray for our own kinks! Writing you from the home of the kinkless SO, xox
tx_cronopio
Mar. 17th, 2005 05:03 pm (UTC)
Sorry, it's been pointed out to me that above story was not by Jane. Sorry!
lirm35m
Mar. 17th, 2005 01:46 pm (UTC)
Bulletproof kink: Spike sticking it to Angel for the first time...
stoney321
Mar. 17th, 2005 01:59 pm (UTC)
*waves hello*
Oh... God. yes, please. I am a SUCKER for "first time" fics.

So... Any faves? Rec, please! :-D
lirm35m
Mar. 17th, 2005 02:53 pm (UTC)
Re: *waves hello*
Here's a good Spike-tops-his-sire-for-the-first-time fic It's definitely one of my favourites.

There's a link on my lj to more of my fav fics, check there for a lot more slashy goodness.
stoney321
Mar. 17th, 2005 05:40 pm (UTC)
Re: *waves hello*
Whee!!

*ahem* If you want to read Angel sticking it to Connor for the first time (uh, better than that sounded) skip back one on this journal *ahem*

Slef-pimping in one's own journal isn't bad, right? *BG*

Thanks for the links!!
lirm35m
Mar. 17th, 2005 06:41 pm (UTC)
Re: *waves hello*
Ohh, thanx for the self-pimpage; the fic was hot. I'll be sure to take a look at the rest tomorrow (must party now).
hellziggy
Mar. 20th, 2005 11:26 pm (UTC)
Re: *waves hello*
OMG! I followed the link to your favorites & from there went to Medea's Masters & Minions. Wow! So good. My poor sick hubby has Nyquiled himself to sleep while I'm here reading hot porn. That's just not right! He shouldn't be sick so tht I could go ravish him now!
lirm35m
Mar. 21st, 2005 10:33 am (UTC)
Re: *waves hello*
Ha! That series is unbelievably hot *fans self*! I'm glad you found something on the list that was to your liking.
hellziggy
Mar. 21st, 2005 10:37 am (UTC)
Re: *waves hello*
Oh, I haven't even started on the list... That was the first one I picked to read. Please tell me the others are all as good?
ropo
Mar. 17th, 2005 02:57 pm (UTC)
My LJ's always got green!

And my dad, who's Scottish (but secretly half-Irish), tells me that St. Patrick was from Scotland, so Mr. Stoney can celebrate away!
stoney321
Mar. 17th, 2005 05:41 pm (UTC)
Funny, it seems Mr. Stoney needs no further validation or encouragement... Friggin' lush. *BG*
nihano1
Mar. 17th, 2005 04:10 pm (UTC)
Squicks and Kinks
Squicks::
Pedophilia- no explanations necessary. Creepy, psycho,stalker Wes is not sexy to me. If I see Angel/Wesley in a story I more than likely will not read it. Angel/non Spike(William)-this isn't really a squick. Angel with anyone other than Spike and his incarnations does nothing for me SEXUALLY. However, I will read the story if it is well written. I may even like that story, but it probably won't turn me on. Having said that, Bangel does nothing for me either, on the show or in fic. Giles/any Scooby-no, just no. Rape is not a turn on, especially if you have the victim and the rapist end up together acting schmoopy::gag::.

Kinks::
I adore Angelus (not Angel) with just about anyone. Keep in mind that a relationship with Angelus would more than likely will be f'ed up. I'll probably read Spike with anyone as well. I adore Spike in all his personas, all of them I say!!! If he is with Angel, Angelus, or Liam, I'll adore it even more. No matter how many times it is done I will forever love Angelus taking William's virginity ::sighs::. I know it has been done to death, but gah!! Whore,Slut,Stripper!Spike in eyeliner and leather pants does it for me. If a fic is funny, I'll more than likely overlook the flaws. This is the same if the fic is teh hawt. I also like fics where people fight over Spike like say Connor and Angel. Connor/Spike/Angel is my ultimate OT3. Any recs?

Maybe I'm not as kinky as I thought? Or maybe I am? I can't tell anymore...

Happy SPD!!

stoney321
Mar. 17th, 2005 04:23 pm (UTC)
Re: Squicks and Kinks
Well, if you don't mind going back in my journal... *grins* Last two posts: 1) Angel/Connor - their first, 2) RPS, JM/VK

I just read a fic by stakebait here that is GUH. Just... Lord. Sponner.

I'm still looking...
nihano1
Mar. 17th, 2005 05:48 pm (UTC)
Re: Squicks and Kinks
Yeah Sponner!!! Thanks for the recs. OMG RPS, JM/VK hawtness
Thanks!!!!
nihano1
Mar. 17th, 2005 07:49 pm (UTC)
Re: Squicks and Kinks
Also you do get that I wanna read more fics that feature Spike/Connor and Spike/Angel in them and not all three at the same time? In the the end Spike will have to make a choice, and Angel and Connor try to fight to keep him. I still see Connor as Angel's son. Technically, Spike is related to Angel as well, but it doesn't seem quite as incestuous. I guess it's a vampire vs. human thing. Although Connor isn't a normal human. Hmmm do I make sense?
lynnenne
Mar. 17th, 2005 05:07 pm (UTC)
Oddly enough, I don't mind incest, as long as it's between semi-consenting semi-adults. It's the pre-teen stuff that wigs me out, which is why I can't go within 10 miles of the HP fandom.

Stuff I like: Spike talking dirty (god, that VOICE!); Angel being goofy and shy; one of them seducing the other, wearing down their resistance; and loads and loads of sexual tension. I wish I were better at sexual tension. It makes it so much more fun when they... you know... untense.
stoney321
Mar. 17th, 2005 05:43 pm (UTC)
Yeah, incest in the HPverse GROSS ME OUT. I love love love the books, so I'm not prepared for the monster sexcapades that are written. I'm a baby. That being said, I love a first time fic between R/Hr, but there was a WIP (sadly, the author left fandom) of H/Hr that was one of the best fics I ever read. Period.

Spike taking dirty is a GOOD one.

And staring at your icon would be another. Guh.
hellziggy
Mar. 17th, 2005 08:36 pm (UTC)
What does it for you?
Vampires! I've realized lately that I really dig vampire porn & not just Buffyverse vamps. In fandom, it's Spike/Angel or Spike/Angelus or Spike/Buffy. Aw hell, it's pretty much Spike fucking or getting fucked by anyone! I'm not really into RPS because when I read it I tend to picture them in character anyway. Good writing is important. I like humor when it's well done. Don't really care for Connor. Giles naked does nothing for me. My favorite characters are Spike, Angel, Willow, Buffy, Fred, Wesley & any combination of them is good.
Major squicks are incest (although your Connor/Angel was a well done exception) child porn (I just can't imagine why anyone would get into HP porn) and rape.

At this point I'm still learning what I like. I've actually only been reading fics online for less than a year. I blame all my LJ friends who are into it! Y'all are a bunch of pervs. *grin* Luckily I've got no desire to start writing it so I won't lose my entire life to it...
mskakaako
Mar. 17th, 2005 10:40 pm (UTC)
My squick is slash. ::ducks:: I'm such a baby.
Also, I'm not into the bitey stuff. I don't see the OMG!!1HAWTNESS!!!! of it. *shrugs* Or Buffy and Giles. Eeeeeew.

Although most Spuffy is pretty craptastic, I do get excited about a few of the really good fics. The ones where Buffy and Spike are all pained and angsty drive me crazy. In the bad way. If Buffy is complete devoid of all humour and speaks proper English using words with more than three syllables correctly, I feel like poking my eyes out. She was no dummy, but she wasn't a Rhodes scholar either. The OOCness kills me.

Also, Ganya totally does IT for me. I love my Ganya. I know lots of people find Ganya squicky, but I eat it up. YUM! YUM!!!

Heehee! You're extra cute when you're giddy!
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