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TV and Very Strong and Angry Opinions Ahead

First, Southland last night was EPIC. Good lord. Recap is here, and I'm telling you, if you're not watching that show and you love the craft of writing? You are doing a huge disservice to yourself. (FM, you're excused because of the blood. :D)

Second, GLEE was epic. And this is where I'm going to go off on a rant about fandom entitlement, and how it's bled into the media, etc.

Everyone remembers this is actually a person's LJ and not a comm, right? Okay. Just putting that as a header.

Note: I cannot stand half-full types. Negative Nancys? Debbie Downers? Don't like you. You might want to turn back now, my phasers are set to ENRAGED.

[I'm just going to jump right into it.] So Dave Karofsky attempted suicide last night on the show. Why? Because he has hated himself since he knew he wasn't "right" and when everyone else found out and told him yep, he's awful and wrong, and they spray painted the F word on his locker and poured hate onto his FB page and his mother told him he has a "disease," he dressed himself in his church suit and put a belt around his neck in the closet.

All of this was set to Darren Criss singing mournfully (and so, so beautifully) about acceptance and it remains one of the more powerful montages I've seen on TV. Yes, it's a show called "Glee." We get the word has dual meanings, right? Sorry, I saw a lot of "Ha, IDK why they call the show Glee," last night. Where were you during Season 2, the year of Kurt's Cries? When they dealt with very real situations? And let's not forget (even though everyone does) Jean.

JEAN. One of the most moving stories on the show was her funeral and I don't remember these same people bitching about the show being "manipulative" by casting people with actual Downs, etc. Nope, I don't want to go down that road.

I want to point out that this silly show (at times) has also has done more for gay/questioning kids out there than anything else. My son's best friend took his boyfriend to Homecoming this year, and why? Because he thought it would be okay because Kurt and Blaine did. (Excuse me while I cry.) I live in the reddest county in Texas, folks. We had watching parties with teens here. HERE. Boys and girls. Klaine is the Ross/Rachel of a new generation. HERE. That's huge.

We've also had several kids in our community kill themselves because of bullying. One because he was outed, but the others? Well, they were just...desperately sad with no end in sight. I made a very painful and very public post recently. As in one month ago recently. My son set out to do exactly what Dave Karofsky did. Exactly. For whatever reason you decide to call it, he stopped himself at the last minute. I don't think I have to tell you (general you) how grateful I am every single day that he did stop himself.

So when I hear/read comments like that storyline was "manipulative for ratings *eyeroll*" I want to get very very angry. Because once again: this show, silly though some of us may think it is, does real good for people. For kids struggling. And seeing the fallout (and the emotionally gut wrenching lead-up) from his actions just might save a life. I mean that without any hyperbole. If you want to make fun of me, or call me dramatic, that's your right. You ever tell me that? I will rain my anger down upon you.

I am sick and tired of people who LIVE to bitch and complain and hate things, who dedicate huge portions of their life to something they purportedly cannot stand. Live in fandom, then, where you can have control and quit bitching about CANON. No one will say boo. Shit, people did that in Buffy and had a lovely time participating in fandom with their cut out dolls.

I am sick and tired of people ruining MY fandom experience because they can't stop bitching. Or spreading spoilers and rumors and speculations that either don't pan out, or diminish the viewing experience for me and others, just so they can keep up the steady stream of complaints. What a waste of energy. Yes, they have the right to experience fandom exactly as they wish. This is me with a rebuttal.

I am sick of how entitled this fandom is, that if their ideas aren't given to them every week, the show is awful, damaging, stupid, etc. It's a goddamn show about a fucking show choir, are you serious? Why, I would love a Klaine spin-off! Burt in Washington? Sign me up! But that's not the bill of goods I was sold in the beginning, and neither were you. What a waste of your energy to do nothing but put down something. JUST CHANGE THE CHANNEL.

I had to unfollow a god damn JOURNALIST this morning when I realized how much Kool-Aid she'd drunk. She writes her recaps to please shippers and fandom, she said as much in her recap today. And because she got tons of people saying "she'd better" blah blah, she wrote her review and recap BASED ON FANDOM'S THREATS.

You fucking entitled children. (General you who threatened her.) Do you realize you're getting the experience based on what you're putting into it?? Anger and disappointment, reading and mocking with others who are angry, making you angrier, and then you wonder why you're never satisfied? Are you daft?

I clearly love the show. I have the utmost respect and admiration for some of the actors on the show and their stories (I wonder who...) but can deal with the bi-polar nature of the goofiness, too. That's what the show is.

But when they tackle something seriously, they do it with their hearts on their sleeves. It's not manipulative to show the very real possibility that a kid like Dave would take the quick way out. It's not out of character for one of the kindest kids on the show (as I put it on HDJM: "the goodness and kind soul that is Kurt Hummel. (When not confronted with fashion horrors or vocal atrocities, of course. He’s only human.) It makes sense that the kid who forgave his tormentor would come to the hospital after his suicide attempt.")

Shipping wars? Your favorite character not getting enough screen time? This is not the show for you, I'm thinking. I understand that everyone has the right to experience things in the way they wish. I just want nothing to do with that negative bullshit.

Christ, life is bad enough as it is, fucking enjoy something. This story line has affected me in a deep and profound way, and quite frankly, I just don't want to interact with people who want to be blase or just shitty because it's cool to hate things. I'm not interested.

Vitriolic, I know. I just cannot take any more of how bratty this fandom can be. I feel like there are two fandoms for Glee: people who love to hate it, and me and about four other people. Whatever, they're quality folks, and smaller parties are more fun to me, anyway. One of those quality people has made an amazing and heartfelt post about why the LGBT stories mean so much to her.

If you have anything negative to say, don't you dare drop it there. Her LJ is not the place.


Feb. 22nd, 2012 07:12 pm (UTC)
I NEVER MIND LONG COMMENTS, so you know. I just really went off on a tear. (BTW, none of this is directed at you? Gurl, if I gets mad, I tells a person. *G*)

Now. Imagine I am hugging you for the horrible experience you went through with your sister. I'm so sorry for all of you. <3

Part of me while watching last night wished I'd been prepared. But you know...I think it's how we go through life. We're not always going to be prepared. At least this is a safe environment of knowing it's acting, that Max is fine. Chris is fine.

And I would LOVE loads of Klaine moments. Love. But there are other characters that haven't been featured hardly at ALL (Tina) and... it's an ensemble show.

I'm glad you love the show. I need people that do! Not liking aspects, wishing, that's one thing. I see a lot of "this FUCKING BLAH BLAH" like ONTD_Glee. They LIVE to hate on it. Which, whatever, that's their right.

I'm just tired of being happy each week (because I don't know what's been cut) and not having anywhere to turn to talk about things in a serious (and non-hating) way. Well, except for my handful of bros. I feel like an outsider to fandom for not hating what the fandom is based on, and that's a...weird feeling.

*loooooves fanfiction hoorays!*
Feb. 22nd, 2012 10:09 pm (UTC)
(Oh good! I was worried you'd put me in the category of the crazy bitching fans...because I'm really not...I adore this show, it just drives me crazy with its Glee-ness).

Yeah, I think I do wear my entitlement!hat too often, and I get grumpy when Kurt and Blaine have hardly any interaction, but then I can always go back to "The First Time" or "Original Song" and suddenly, it's all okay again. Also, I think it's why I involve myself in fandom so much; because we explore the relationships to levels that the tv shows never can. I've done it with my past fandoms (heavily with Harry Potter and Torchwood/Doctor Who) and I will probably continue to do so.

I sometimes wonder whether fandom hampers my enjoyment of this show. With my other fandoms, I am so unbelievably spoiler-phobic. Like..you have no idea. I have filters and allsorts set up, and will bust a vein having a go at someone who doesn't use an appropriate lj-cut or a read more or something. But with Glee...I dunno what it is. I just have to know everything.

And also, I don't even go near ONTD_Glee. I went there once, after "The First Time" and it was so full of people ripping Klaine to shreads...and I just didn't want an involvement in that side of the fandom. On Tumblr, I'm surrounded by people who will say "LOOK AT THIS EDIT OF A KLAINE SCENE YOU'VE SEEN A MILLION TIMES, ISN'T IT FUCKING AMAZING?!" then everyone reblogs it with "LOOK AT THEM, THEY'RE AMAZING, I JUST WANT TO SMOOSH THEM!". That's the kind of fandom I like. And I really do love reblogging the same pictures and going meta leikwhoa on them and then being all "THIS FUCKING SHOW W H Y DO YOU DO THIS?!" but still enjoying it at the same time.

I knew very little about "On My Way", mainly because work has been crazy this week, so I hadn't even downloaded 'Cough Syrup'. And I wasn't prepared enough for what the episode was going to do to me. Out of all of the episodes, I wish I'd known just how much was going to happen in this one, most of all. Mainly because of everything I've said about my family situation. Just...it's a very real situation for a lot of people, and without the appropriate warnings, I'm sure lots of people will have had the same reaction.

(I'm anticipating that Sky (the UK broadcaster) will put a warning ahead of the episode...they'd be silly not to).

*I'm reading aaaaall of Rainjoy's stuff right now...so fucking good. Also, miss, have you read 'Dismantle The Sun'? If not, you really should*
Feb. 23rd, 2012 12:08 am (UTC)
That is EXACTLY the purpose of fanfiction. I mean, the show is divided amongst what, 15 characters for 44 minutes? There's only so much we're going to get. So we get to roll around in delicious character-driven stories that go on for days, YAY!

I can say without question that the Glee-fandom (for the most part) hampers my enjoyment of the show. I've been in fandoms since freaking Star Wars and I've never experienced anything like this before. It's maddening. I think it's a combination of people who are used to getting what they want (or not being reprimanded for demanding things) combined with a lack of maturity on some parts and the new internet culture of attack.

I had to stop following ONTD-Glee when I saw that it basically existed for people to hate on the show. I can't deal. Glad they're happy, I'll be over here. haha, that's the kind of fandom I like, too - ALL LOVE.

I do like Rainjoy's stories (even though I giggle at the Britishisms that bleed through. She ain't bovvered, so why should I be? ;D )

I'll go check that story out, thank you!! <3
Feb. 23rd, 2012 12:25 am (UTC)
I love that we have fics like yours, and then there's Someone Like You, Go Your Own Way, Vows and about a MILLION other epic long fics where we can dismantle and reassemble the canon to how we want it, and we can play with them and make them do what we want, and be happy with that. But I can watch the show and be happy with that too, mostly.

I mean, the last show I was *this* obsessed about was Torchwood. And I was involved in the fandom on LJ quite a lot throughout my time of loving it. (I even went to the conventions oh my god, they were amazing). But even then, apart from the horrific ending of Children Of Earth, the fandom was largely okay.

But you're right in what you said to someone else in this comment section; TUMBLR IS WHERE ALL THE MAD IS. I mean...it's *CRAZY* on there. Mainly I'm there for the pictures and the weeping at Darren's unnaturally brilliant torso. But seriously? The fandom is batshit on there. And I like it, but it can seriously *ruin* your enjoyment of an episode if you believe every "spoiler" that's posted.

AAAND then, we bleed into a conversation about entitlement and demanding fans (which you touched on the other week with your fanfic entry!) and the demand for more-more-more and not appreciating what is given to you. I remember, loooong ago, when you used to have to read fanfic on FANFICTION.NET or on YAHOO GROUPS because those were the only places!! Reading epic, novel-length Harry Potter fics. I mean, we'd wait *weeks* for updates. Like...actual proper weeks to a month. With NOTHING in between. You'd be talking with other readers on the group, but then apart from that...NOTHING. No previews, no links, no NOTHING. Mainly because we were taking out inspiration from a canon which had an average publishing time of about two years between books. I wonder how these "kids" would cope with that kind of environment now....

I don't know why I don't notice Rainjoy's Britishisms? Maybe because I'm English so it doesn't really....bother me? If it's blindingly something that *needs* to be referred to in the American tense, then yeah, it will irritate, but I'm so used to being in a British fandom (HP, Torchwood, Dr Who) that with Glee, I'm kinda struggling to make the leap back over and *not* trying to Britpick the whole damned thing!

(Dismantle The Sun will kill you, and put you back together again in a quivering wreck, but a really fucking happy one. Fair warning!)

(Also, I hope that this comment thread shows you that there are sane Glee fans out there! I know my tumblr is mainly a mess of flail, but my LJ always tends to be more organised flail ;) hehe)
Feb. 23rd, 2012 01:04 am (UTC)
Ha, examples of British-Bleed (hee):
on a night

(I gloss over the addition of U to -or, so those never bother me.) It's just something I notice, it doesn't anger me or anything. People who write "keening?" or "Screaming" during sex? Or who make Kurt a sobbing tit who is weak and frail? Or Blaine as an idiot? THAT makes me mad. Poor characterization and poor writing (omg, stop the head hopping, people!!) are my issues. You tell me a good story, I'll be all over it.

This post has brought out the sane folks, and I am SO HAPPY ABOUT IT! *hugs*
Feb. 23rd, 2012 01:12 am (UTC)
We are *so* on the same page. So, so on the same page. If I read another fic with the word "keening" in it....I swear. KITTEN LICKS. Blaine with calloused hands. OH MY GOD. There's so many identikit fics out there. ORIGINALITY PEOPLE. Remember your canon, for it dictates certain aspects of your fanon. Also, learn how to use a thesaurus. And a dictionary.

You will love Dismantle The Sun. It's just..yeah, I actually cried reading it.

(DAMN YOU woman, using that icon of Darren...hnhhhng)
Feb. 23rd, 2012 01:44 am (UTC)
OMG KITTEN LICKS GROSSES ME OUT. ALso: ejaculate fetishing where everyone wants to eat it. WHAT. It tastes like a handful of nickels on a hot summer day with a touch of bleach, WHAT?! *hoark*

I sometimes feel ashamed for my unabashed love for Darren Criss' body. And then I look at more pictures and get over it.
Feb. 23rd, 2012 01:51 am (UTC)
You *lick*. Nobody licks like a kitten. Apart from, you know, a kitten. Aaaaah comeplay, rimming, the whole shebang. I mean, I know people *do it*, but like....argh, I dunno. I've read too much gay porn fic, I'm totally desensitised to it all now but..argh, yeah. You either come into a condom, or you swallow it without tasting it on your tongue. You don't play with it. Haha!

Darren's body is a shrine that we must worship at. He has a torso to die for and the definition of that fucking arrow of his hips basically *inviting* us to imagine his penis. I mean, come on, man. And don't get me started on his arms. Ugh, his everything is so perfect ♥

Aaah, I love how this has turned into a general bitchfest/Darren appreciation, borne out of discontentment about the fandom and a particularly harrowing episode of Glee. Good times!!
Feb. 23rd, 2012 01:09 am (UTC)
(And thank you for the compliment. I suck at multi-tasking.)


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Reading this? I'm just curious. Because that's really detail-oriented of you. Feel free to stop reading. But you can see that there's more here, so are you going to keep reading? Really? That's pretty dedicated. I'm impressed. No, really. I'm not being sarcastic, why do you get like that? See, this is the problem I have with your mother - yes. YES. I'm going there. It's time we put all of our cards on the table.

I love you, why are you doing this? After all we've been through? You don't have to be like this. You know, still reading. You could be baking a pie. And then sharing it with me.

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